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Re: Superseded warning on 2005 Process Document

From: Jeff Jaffe <jeff@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 15:45:09 -0400
Message-ID: <552EBFC5.7010603@w3.org>
To: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, "Charles McCathie Nevile (chaals@yandex-team.ru)" <chaals@yandex-team.ru>
CC: "public-w3process@w3.org" <public-w3process@w3.org>, Ian Jacobs <IJ@w3.org>
Paul,

Great comment.  We now say:

"On 1 August 2014, W3C began a transition away from this document; see the current W3C Process Document."

Hopefully that addresses your issue.

Jeff

On 4/9/2015 2:30 PM, Paul Cotton wrote:
>
> The 2005 Process Document now contains the following warning:
>
> http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/
>
> *World Wide Web Consortium Process Document*
>
>
>     14 October 2005
>
> This document has been superseded. Please see the most recent version 
> <http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Process/>.
>
> Given the large number of W3C specifications that continue to be 
> processed under the 2005 Process Document I find the word “superseded” 
> too strong and misleading.
>
> BTW a common Web dictionary [1] defines “supersede” as meaning “to set 
> aside or cause to be set aside as void, useless, or obsolete, usually 
> in favor of something mentioned; make obsolete.  The 2005 Process 
> Document is not yet “useless” or “obsolete”.  In fact the notification 
> of the membership of the new Process 2014 document makes it very clear 
> in which cases the 2005 Process  document is still in effect:
>
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-forum/2014JanMar/0104.html 
> (member only link)
>
> BTW I know that this same warning occurs in older Process Documents 
> where I believe it is appropriate.
>
> http://www.w3.org/2004/02/Process-20040205/
>
> I would like to suggest that the note in the 2005 Process Document be 
> changed to the following:
>
> “The W3C is transitioning away from this document to a more recent 
> version <http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Process/>.”
>
> Note that I was going to try to predict when the 2005 Process would 
> actually be “superseded” but the complex 5 cases described in 
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-forum/2014JanMar/0104.html 
> (member only link) make this too difficult to do.
>
> /paulc
>
> HTML WG co-chair
>
> [1] http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/superseded 
> <http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/superseded>
>
> Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
>
> 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
>
> Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
>
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