AW: What are the PD/PP constraints? [Was: Re: Request by AB]

Hi Art,

There is no restriction on thought or ideas as far as I am concerned.
There is no intention of creating something for a particular group.
There are no sacred cows.

The impetus for this group was some general dissatisfaction with the W3C process that keeps coming up here and there, but is not dealt with in a comprehensive manner.
Most criticism stems from the speed of the W3C process vs. the perceived need of the community to get standards.

Currently we are having discussions on version based standards work W3C style vs. incremental or "living" standards work.
We are also trying to log issues as they come up and are identifiable enough to create an issue.
Please feel free to contribute to that collection both with issues and solutions.


- Kai



> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Arthur Barstow [mailto:art.barstow@nokia.com]
> Gesendet: Montag, 5. März 2012 19:55
> An: Scheppe, Kai-Dietrich; public-w3process@w3.org; Charles
> McCathieNevile
> Betreff: What are the PD/PP constraints? [Was: Re: Request by AB]
> 
> On 2/7/12 5:51 AM, ext Scheppe, Kai-Dietrich wrote:
> > As an aside,
> >
> > The Advisory Board has contacted Marcos and myself, as initiators of
> this activity here, to contribute a list of problems with W3C Process
> and potential solutions.
> >
> > I, for my part, referred to this activity and that we are still in
> the problem finding phase and have not worked out solutions.
> > I would also refrain from making proposals that have not been
> supported by this group, as I think this is what this group is about.
> >
> >
> > However, it would be nice to be able to give the AB some material to
> work with.
> Hi All,
> 
> Sorry for the late reply on this but having just caught up on most of
> the comments on the recent Living Standards thread, I wanted to step
> back a bit and try to get some clarification on a couple of questions
> that were no doubt discussed a while ago ...
> 
> What exactly is in play here i.e. what are the constraints re changing
> the PD and PP? Is everything in those docs truly open for change or are
> there parts of them that are considered axiomatic and thus deemed
> sacred
> and immutable? If the later, what are they?
> 
> I'd like to understand this now (at least generally) so I don't waste
> my
> time working on "solutions" or "proposals", especially if folks from
> the
> AB and/or PSIG are just going to stand up say "wait, wait - we can't do
> X/Y/Z because that would change A/B/C and they are immutable!".
> 
> Also, an observation I have - and it may be incorrect - is that there
> is
> a considerable amount of work that is ongoing at the W3C where the
> overall consensus of the active participants re process is effectively
> "if it ain't broke don't fix it" (f.ex. Semantic Web?, WAI?, XML?). If
> we assume this is true, is the idea in his CG more about how to change
> the processes for some specific WG that may decide to opt-in to a new
> proces model? Or is the CG trying to create a new process model for
> every WG?
> 
> -Cheers, TheOtherAB
>

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