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Re: Reintroducing the Music proposal

From: Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfpschneider@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:20:49 -0700
Message-ID: <5421BA01.5040701@gmail.com>
To: Vicki Tardif Holland <vtardif@google.com>, PublicVocabs <public-vocabs@w3.org>
This proposal has a number of issues.

byArtist is a bad name for the performer, as the name of the relation could
just as easily mean composer or lyricist.

Is composer specific to the music or a composition or does it also include
lyricists?

How is "music and lyrics by" to be represented?

Are composer and lyricist subproperties of creator or author?

How should the various other values for creators, e.g., Traditional, be
represented?

The ranges of several properties are different when they probably should be
the same.
byArtist - MusicGroup
composer - Organization or Person
lyricist - Person
Quite a few lyrics of popular songs are credited to a music group as a whole.

Are cover songs arrangements?  Are themes and variations arrangements?  Are
parodies arrangements?  The description of musicArrangement is much too
vague.

The examples for musicCompositionForm should go beyond classical music, for
example, power ballad.

MusicRecording is a bad name for a track.  There are tracks in albums that
do not correspond to compositions, e.g., compositions split over multiple
sides of an album, as for Thick as a Brick.  Going further back, many
8-track tapes split compositions into multiple tracks.

The comment on track is too vague.  Presumably a track on a music album is a
part of the album that is somehow a single unit.  However, tracks on
classical albums are very often not songs, but instead often relate to
movements.


It would have been helpful to point to information on how this proposal
relates to MusicBrainz.


peter


On 09/23/2014 10:16 AM, Vicki Tardif Holland wrote:
> Now that ItemList appears to be near completion, I would like to re-submit for
> comments a proposal to add music-related types and properties.
>
> The proposal was developed through collaboration with the MusicBrainz project
> and partially inspired by the MusicBrainz and Music Ontology schemas.
>
> See the test build pages:
> http://sdo-music.appspot.com/MusicComposition
> <http://sdo-music.appspot.com/MusicComposition>
> http://sdo-music.appspot.com/MusicGroup <http://sdo-music.appspot.com/MusicGroup>
> http://sdo-music.appspot.com/MusicAlbum <http://sdo-music.appspot.com/MusicAlbum>
> http://sdo-music.appspot.com/MusicRecording
> <http://sdo-music.appspot.com/MusicRecording>
> http://sdo-music.appspot.com/StudioAlbum
> <http://sdo-music.appspot.com/StudioAlbum>
> http://sdo-music.appspot.com/AlbumRelease
> <http://sdo-music.appspot.com/AlbumRelease>
>
> - Vicki
>
> Vicki Tardif Holland | Ontologist |vtardif@google.com <mailto:vtardif@google.com>
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