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Re: New Proposal - Measurement (in support of describing sports statistics)

From: Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 11:43:01 -0500
Message-ID: <CAChbWaPVdpia0snQHr=Ly58hWeh1_0kzVOma5siyYEMqZJ7hRg@mail.gmail.com>
To: "martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org" <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>
Cc: Niklas Lindström <lindstream@gmail.com>, Tom Grahame <tom.grahame@bbc.co.uk>, W3C Web Schemas Task Force <public-vocabs@w3.org>
Actually,

Martin brings up a very good example case that SHOULD be included in the
proposals examples...besides custom qualitative values like the PPP ratio
over GDP.

A measurement's value (at another given measurement's value that it was
obtained at / through)

The (quantity of Nitrogen) in a shark at (a given depth in an ocean) AND at
a (that particular ocean's temperature at that depth).

The (temperature of surrounding Air) at a (given altitude on Mount Everest).

Or some such.



On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 8:26 AM, martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org <
martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org> wrote:

> For this reason, QualitativeValue has always has a valueReference property
> which can be used to provide contextual information (e.g. the temperature
> at which another value was obtained).
>
> See
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> http://wiki.goodrelations-vocabulary.org/Documentation/Structured_values_and_value_references
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> http://www.heppnetz.de/ontologies/goodrelations/v1.html#valueReference
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> Best wishes / Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>
> Martin Hepp
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> On 04 Sep 2014, at 15:20, Niklas Lindström <lindstream@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >
> > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 3:09 PM, martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org <
> martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org> wrote:
> > Conceptually, I think there is no relevant difference between a
> quantitative value and a measurement, since all what we process in computer
> systems are abstractions of reality, so any qualitative value represented
> in any computer system is essentially tied to a measurement activitity
> (except for values generated randomly or algorithmically, but with a wider
> notion of what "measurement" means, that could well be covered, too).
> >
> > +1 Looking for relevant differences is key.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Niklas
> >
> >
> > Martin
> >
> >
> >
> > On 04 Sep 2014, at 14:59, Tom Grahame <tom.grahame@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On 04/09/2014 10:51, "Markus Lanthaler" <markus.lanthaler@gmx.net>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> - Is quantityValue really required? Can't a Measurement be a
> > >> QuantitativeValue at the same time?
> > >
> > > As I interpret the examples, the Measurement is the activity (a form of
> > > observation) and the QuantitativeValue an outcome of the activity, so
> they
> > > are different things.
> > >
> > > I¹m not sure what is correct but the problem may stem from this part of
> > > the proposal, in the Terminology section, where I think Measurement may
> > > need to settle one way or the other:
> > > "The term Measurement may refer to act of measuring (its verb form) or
> the
> > > result of that act (its noun form).²
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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