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Re: webschema-ISSUE-23 (danbri): No Organization subtype for Non-Profit

From: Charles McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 18:43:23 +0400
To: public-vocabs@w3.org, "Karen Coyle" <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
Message-ID: <op.wzs1ulwpy3oazb@dhcp-217-166-wifi.yandex.net>
On Sat, 06 Jul 2013 17:14:45 +0400, Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net> wrote:

> I agree that NGO \= non-profit, but non-profit also \= charitable  
> organization.

Right. Where do we fit an organisation like the W3C, which *technically*  
isn't a formal organisation at all, but an agreement among various players?

Also, we seem to be heavily focused on political players. While we have  
sporting clubs (some of which are non-profit, some of which are definitely  
for profit) we don't seem to have a more general category for  
"recreational groups" - some of which are officially registered, and some  
of which are not.

The Mozilla Foundation is a non-profit - but they produce products, have  
C*Os and multi-million-dollar marketing departments and customers who are  
not really part of the organisation in any meaningful sense. But the  
Dachshund club of Finland isn't a sporting organisation, isn't primarily  
"charitable" (without suggesting that its members are not kind and  
charitable people), isn't a religion...

What is Couchsurfing.org?

I'm sorry, I don't yet have suggestions for answers. But it seems to me  
that the answers we have already codified in schema.org only work for a  
handful of the questions we should be asking.

cheers

Chaals

> Depending on the country, NGO's and non-profits are divided differently.  
> This Wikipedia article gives an idea of the enormity of this category:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-governmental_organization
>
> (I had no idea that BINGO, TANGO, BONGO and DONGO, etc., existed!)
>
> One could create a few high level divisions and use productOntology for  
> details if needed, although many types here do not (yet) have Wikipedia  
> pages of their own.
>
> kc
>
> On 7/6/13 4:12 AM, Web Schemas TF Issue Tracker wrote:
>> webschema-ISSUE-23 (danbri): No Organization subtype for Non-Profit
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>> http://www.w3.org/2011/webschema/track/issues/23
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>> Raised by: Dan Brickley
>> On product:
>>
>> Julie Setbon asks, "Under http://schema.org/Organization what would a  
>> non-profit group fall under ? An NGO is a non-governmental organization  
>> which to me is not the same as an independent 503 tax exempt or other  
>> non-profit grass roots movement."
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