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Re: webschema-ISSUE-23 (danbri): No Organization subtype for Non-Profit

From: Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 16:59:31 +0200
Message-ID: <CAFfrAFr__42RV4ADAMRavYytYXz9e4iUtwKui=Adx8CUzbcfiA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Charles McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>
Cc: public-vocabs@w3.org, Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
On 6 July 2013 16:43, Charles McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru> wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Jul 2013 17:14:45 +0400, Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net> wrote:
>
>> I agree that NGO \= non-profit, but non-profit also \= charitable
>> organization.
>
>
> Right. Where do we fit an organisation like the W3C, which *technically*
> isn't a formal organisation at all, but an agreement among various players?
>
> Also, we seem to be heavily focused on political players. While we have
> sporting clubs (some of which are non-profit, some of which are definitely
> for profit) we don't seem to have a more general category for "recreational
> groups" - some of which are officially registered, and some of which are
> not.
>
> The Mozilla Foundation is a non-profit - but they produce products, have
> C*Os and multi-million-dollar marketing departments and customers who are
> not really part of the organisation in any meaningful sense. But the
> Dachshund club of Finland isn't a sporting organisation, isn't primarily
> "charitable" (without suggesting that its members are not kind and
> charitable people), isn't a religion...
>
> What is Couchsurfing.org?
>
> I'm sorry, I don't yet have suggestions for answers. But it seems to me that
> the answers we have already codified in schema.org only work for a handful
> of the questions we should be asking.

All of which suggests to me, that the sooner we can hand off the
detailed sub-categorization to Wikipedia (via Wikidata?) the better...

Dan

> cheers
>
> Chaals
>
>
>> Depending on the country, NGO's and non-profits are divided differently.
>> This Wikipedia article gives an idea of the enormity of this category:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-governmental_organization
>>
>> (I had no idea that BINGO, TANGO, BONGO and DONGO, etc., existed!)
>>
>> One could create a few high level divisions and use productOntology for
>> details if needed, although many types here do not (yet) have Wikipedia
>> pages of their own.
>>
>> kc
>>
>> On 7/6/13 4:12 AM, Web Schemas TF Issue Tracker wrote:
>>>
>>> webschema-ISSUE-23 (danbri): No Organization subtype for Non-Profit
>>>
>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/webschema/track/issues/23
>>>
>>> Raised by: Dan Brickley
>>> On product:
>>>
>>> Julie Setbon asks, "Under http://schema.org/Organization what would a
>>> non-profit group fall under ? An NGO is a non-governmental organization
>>> which to me is not the same as an independent 503 tax exempt or other
>>> non-profit grass roots movement."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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> Charles McCathie Nevile - Consultant (web standards) CTO Office, Yandex
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>
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