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RE: proposal to add factChecker and copyEditor to NewsArticle

From: Andreas Gebhard <Andreas.Gebhard@gettyimages.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 03:37:37 +0000
To: Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>, Guha <guha@google.com>
CC: John Bachir <john@ganxy.com>, "public-vocabs@w3.org" <public-vocabs@w3.org>, Stuart Myles <SMyles@ap.org>, Evan Sandhaus <sandhes@nytimes.com>
Message-ID: <20DFB543DF4D23408933DA0CED4C4B8B2E166BAF@SEAPXCH10MBX02.amer.gettywan.com>
Hi Dan, Guha and everyone else on this thread,

I'm not sure we can squeeze those two properties into rNews 1.1 (as there are cutoff times to comply with the IPTC's rules to propose and approve changes to standards). But that doesn't mean we can't put them into rNews 1.2 and add them to schema.org whenever you guys want to.

I think, however, that copyEditor is redundant: That's an editor. That's precisely why we added the "editor" property to rNews -- because Reuters wanted to markup the folks who did fact checking and editing on a given text.

factChecker, again, within professional publishing that's essentially the job duty of an editor. But I do realize that some folks might want to express that separately.

My personal opinion: add factChecker, use the existing editor for whatever the original poster wanted to use copyEditor.

Other thoughts?

-ag

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From: Dan Brickley [danbri@danbri.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 23:21
To: Guha
Cc: John Bachir; public-vocabs@w3.org; Andreas Gebhard; Stuart Myles; Evan Sandhaus
Subject: Re: proposal to add factChecker and copyEditor to NewsArticle

On 16 October 2012 13:45, Guha <guha@google.com> wrote:
> That sounds like a good idea.
>
> guha

Likewise, sounds good to me. I'd like to hear from the rNews team on
this though. I had a call with Andreas a little while back about
planning for rNews 1.1. Andreas/Stuart/Evan, any thoughts?

Dan

ps. see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-vocabs/2012Oct/0014.html
for whole thread

> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 1:34 PM, John Bachir <john@ganxy.com> wrote:
>>
>> Anyone have any thoughts on this?
>>
>> Is there another venue more appropriate for this sort of thing?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:00 PM, John Bachir <john@ganxy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The typical roles in producing a journalistic work are: writer, editor,
>>> fact-checker, copy-editor.
>>>
>>> Thing > CreativeWork > Article > NewsArticle has these properties of type
>>> Person:
>>>
>>> accountablePerson
>>> author
>>> contributor
>>> copyrightHolder
>>> creator ("the same as the Author property for CreativeWork" -- I don't
>>> know what that means)
>>> editor
>>> provider
>>>
>>> All of these are from CreativeWork.
>>>
>>> I propose that NewsArticle, or maybe Article for one or both, add the
>>> following two properties of type Person:
>>>
>>> factChecker
>>> copyEditor
>>>
>>> Before I put together a more detailed proposal on the wiki, I'm looking
>>> for some initial feedback from this group.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> John
>>>
>>
>
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