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RE: webschema-ISSUE-13 (Describing Real Estate): Schema.org should document how best to describe Real Estate [Feedback on Schema.org]

From: Jim Rhyne <jrhyne@thematix.com>
Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 10:25:38 -0700
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This is an interesting point.

It is interesting to know where a rented hotel room is located relative to
the common amenities (pool, concierge,etc.) and these are all associated
with a structure.

It is also interesting to know that a rental hotel room is associated with a
brand, such as Hilton. 

One can do these associations in schema.org with the existing properties
(sort of). The problem is that the association path has multiple hops in it
and this creates a problem for indexers. OTOH, adding every interesting
property to every type of schema.org entity will result in adding redundancy
and complexity to schema.org.

Jim Rhyne

Thematix Partners


From: Thad Guidry [mailto:thadguidry@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:51 AM
To: public-vocabs@w3.org
Subject: Re: webschema-ISSUE-13 (Describing Real Estate): Schema.org should
document how best to describe Real Estate [Feedback on Schema.org]


If we look at the current Offer Type:  http://schema.org/Offer 

you can see that indeed all of it's properties could apply to any form or
type of Real Estate...including availability...which could be has simple as
SOLD | AVAILABLE.  So, then the Offer would be typing the Real Estate THING
as a Product.


Looking at the Product Type's properties:  http://schema.org/Product 


here again, I think all of those properties could apply to any form of Real
Estate in general.  Right ?


brand, manufacturer, and model would not necessarily correspond to all types
of Real Estate but I seem useful for representing a Home Builder such as
Pulte Homes, but would it suffice for offering a 3 bedroom condo on the 20th
floor of the Trump World Tower
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_World_Tower and what do you fill in for
those ?   As you can see we still need to connect the dots to a space for
sale within a particular building or structure.


Question is.. Can we create a relationship between a space for sale WITHIN A
/ PART OF / LOCATED IN a particular building or structure somehow with the
current schema ?


On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Adam Wood <adam.michael.wood@gmail.com>

My first thought was that a Time Share would be (as Jesse Friedman
suggested) a type of Offer (a way to sell something), while the Real Estate
itself would be a type of ProductOrService (a thing that can be sold,
rented, let out, etc). So you would Offer that House on the Beach via Time


But then- a Time Share is really a Product, isn't it? This house, during
these two weeks in February, is a discreet thing which can be bought, sold,
rented, let out (seized, repossessed, etc).


It occurs to me that ProductOrService relates to "Asset" in the legal sense-
something that can be owned.


And a two week Time Share on a house relates to the house in pretty much the
same way that the second-floor of an office building (which can also be sold
separately) relates to the office building as a whole. (Or, for that matter,
it relates the same way that Shares of a Publicly traded company relate to
the company as a whole). They are all assets that can be owned, bought,
sold, transferred, etc.






On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Jesse Friedman <cobbsfriedman@gmail.com>

There should probably be a top designation that splits real estate into, for
sale, rentals, timeshares, etc. Would have to think pf the best way to
segment everything. My question is this... Should every single detail of a
property be microformatted or just what people generally are searching for
on the search engines. So where do we start to get the ball rolling...
Assemble a list of fields and a hierarchy of the data that should be


On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com> wrote:

One more footnote...and question to the community...


Are Timeshares ... Real Estate ? or should be considered a General Category
of a Real Estate Type ?  My vote would be YES.






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