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Re: Proposed Text for Local Law and Public Purpose

From: Ed Felten <ed@felten.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:13:06 -0400
Message-ID: <CANZBoGiCLS7tAMLEdDm4Er3ALvdq39bMm3JJkGfMirdMNK2dMQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: David Wainberg <david@networkadvertising.org>
Cc: "public-tracking@w3.org" <public-tracking@w3.org>
I can't speak for John, but I asked my question of Chris because I was
under the impression that Chris (and possibly others) believe that the MRC
documents are relevant to this group's discussion.   If that is not the
case, and there is general agreement that the MRC documents are not
relevant to this group's work, I would be only too happy to see this thread
end.

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 9:33 AM, David Wainberg <
david@networkadvertising.org> wrote:

>  Hi John,
>
>
> On 10/23/12 8:06 PM, John Simpson wrote:
>
>
>  It seems extremely relevant to this Working Group to understand the
> answers to the clarifying questions that Ed and I have raised.  I don't see
> why a call is necessary for that.
>
>  I disagree that this is a relevant conversation. It is not for this
> group to deeply examine, interpret, and pass judgment on the requirements
> of another organization. As this group has decided to take the approach of
> permitted uses, then measurement and auditing are permitted uses or not.
> Attempts to now be highly prescriptive about the nature of those uses are
> unproductive. Likewise, attempts to anticipate every possible sneaky way a
> bad actor might try to circumvent this voluntary standard are also
> unproductive.
>
> On the other hand, if we could start with a list of specific types of data
> and specific risks associated with that data, and then target our solutions
> to those risks, that would be, in my view, a more effective way forward.
> (Or, perhaps, we could work from a definition of tracking.) To get started,
> here's a list of data elements typically available to a third party ad
> network. I'm sure others on the list can add to it.
>
> cookie ID
>
> IP address
>
> user agent
>
> date and time
>
> referrer URL
>
>
> Regards,
>
> David
>
>
>  I ask you again to please answer them.
>
>     ----------
> John M. Simpson
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