W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > public-tracking@w3.org > June 2012

Re: Today's call: summary on user agent compliance

From: Jonathan Mayer <jmayer@stanford.edu>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 17:05:50 -0700
To: ifette@google.com
Cc: Rigo Wenning <rigo@w3.org>, Kevin Smith <kevsmith@adobe.com>, "Roy T. Fielding" <fielding@gbiv.com>, "<public-tracking@w3.org> (public-tracking@w3.org)" <public-tracking@w3.org>
Message-ID: <7B703749DEB2461B9821F0F5C2A93A88@gmail.com>


On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) wrote:

> Because I thought we said earlier (in DC) that we expected browsers would only show exception UI in response to a user gesture.
>  
>  

I don't recall agreement on this point.  It's in nobody's interest for users to get harangued about exceptions.  But there may be better ways to prevent that.
> Otherwise, you end up with popups on every page
>  
>  

There are some market checks against this outcome.  Publishers, for example, may tell ad companies to knock it off.
> (which apparently some people think is an OK outcome)
I haven't heard anyone express that view.  Though there is a most entertaining satire of that (straw man?) position at http://www.cookiedemosite.eu/.
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Rigo Wenning <rigo@w3.org (mailto:rigo@w3.org)> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 13 June 2012 15:50:23 Ian Fette wrote:
> > > You say "you can trigger an exception" but that's a HECK of a lot
> > > harder for a third party to do.
> >  
> > Ian,
> >  
> > you said, "if I do not respond, I'm not on the hook".
> >  
> > This is something else then saying: "I will never ever accept any
> > token from UA string IE".
> >  
> > And to trigger an exception is actually a good test. I still believe
> > that we should arrive in the 21th century. That means we have to
> > start thinking about what it makes a HECK less hard for a third
> > party to trigger an exception.
> >  
> > If this is all about revenue and not about technology and users, you
> > could negotiate every cookie directly with the FTC or the
> > Commission.
> >  
> > But I hope I can tease you to better technology. So how can we make
> > exceptions easier? You say it's hard. Why? Because of the origin
> > constraints?
> >  
> > Rigo
> >  
>  
Received on Thursday, 14 June 2012 00:06:23 UTC

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.3.1 : Friday, 21 June 2013 10:11:30 UTC