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RE: [fwd] Draft charters for work on Semantics for WS

From: Battle, Steven Andrew <steve.battle@hp.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:48:49 -0000
Message-ID: <DE62D3D0BDEF184FBB5089C7D387C37449B440@sdcexc04.emea.cpqcorp.net>
To: "Shi, Xuan" <xshi@GEO.WVU.edu>
Cc: <public-sws-ig@w3.org>

The aim of this charter is specifically about semantic annotations for
WSDL, so its about seeing where the existing W3C WS stack hooks into the
SWS work. It doesn't mean that work on semantic modelling in general
ends here, or that people can't continue to explore other groundings for
OWL-S or WSMO. 

On the other hand, take a look at:
http://www.pacificspirit.com/blog/2005/03/02/yahoo_search_web_service_in
_wsdl_20
Which demonstrates that you can model RESTful service in WSDL 2.0 (once
you've got your head round it).
Steve.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shi, Xuan [mailto:xshi@GEO.WVU.edu] 
> Sent: 16 November 2005 13:47
> To: Battle, Steven Andrew
> Cc: 'public-sws-ig@w3.org'
> Subject: RE: [fwd] Draft charters for work on Semantics for WS
> Importance: High
> 
> Grounding to WSDL limits the power of OWL-S for SWS deployment.
> 
> As a service provider, you described your service in OWL-S. 
> Then as a service requester, if I send a request exactly 
> based on your service description, you should understand how 
> to process my request.
> 
> Since this request, an XML document, can be sent to you 
> either via WSDL/SOAP or via HTTP/POST or another Internet 
> protocol, thus your choice of grounding to WSDL limits OWL-S' 
> deployment in more broadly applications. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Battle, Steven Andrew
> To: public-sws-ig@w3.org
> Sent: 11/16/05 5:28 AM
> Subject: RE: [fwd] Draft charters for work on Semantics for WS
> 
> 
> The WSDL-S team openly acknowledge the strong relationship 
> between WSDL-S and OWL-S, so this should be clarified in the 
> SAW working group charter, which currently recognises only 
> once source of input. One can see the core elements of WSDL-S 
> in the OWL-S submission. This identifies OWL-S extensions for 
> WSDL message (owl-s-parameter), binding and operation 
> (owl-s-process) definitions.
> 
> The relevant sections of the OWL-S submission can be found in section
> 6.2
> http://www.w3.org/Submission/2004/SUBM-OWL-S-20041122#SECTION0
> 0062000000
> 000000000
> 
> This proposal is exactly along the lines of the WSDL working 
> group charter. I feel strongly that in the interests of 
> clarity the sentence below in the charter should be revised:
> 
> "A Member Submission, WSDL-S, related to this work, has been 
> acknowledged by W3C and should be used as one input to the 
> Working Group."
> 
> To something like:
> 
> "Member Submissions related to this work, WSDL-S and OWL-S 
> (see 'Grounding OWL-S Services with WSDL and SOAP'), have 
> been acknowledged by W3C and should be used as input to the 
> Working Group."
> 
> Steve Battle (Hewlett-Packard). 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: public-sws-ig-request@w3.org
> > [mailto:public-sws-ig-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Carine Bournez
> > Sent: 15 November 2005 14:15
> > To: public-sws-ig@w3.org
> > Cc: www-ws@w3.org
> > Subject: [fwd] Draft charters for work on Semantics for WS
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > This is a copy of an announcement sent last week to the W3C 
> membership 
> > (on the member-ws@w3.org mailing list).
> > All comments welcome! (for non members, on the public-sws-ig@w3.org 
> > mailing list). Thank you.
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Following the announcement in [1], two charters have been 
> drafted, 
> > > corresponding to the two points previously described.
> > > 
> > > The first one is a Semantics for Web Services
> > Characterization Group.
> > > 
> > > 	http://www.w3.org/2005/10/sws-charac-charter.html
> > > 
> > > It specifically includes 4 issues to discuss.
> > > 
> > > The second one is Semantic Annotations for WSDL Working Group.
> > > 
> > > 	http://www.w3.org/2005/10/sa-ws-charter.html
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Discussion on both these charters should happen on this
> > mailing list
> > > (member-ws@w3.org).
> > > Thank you!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [1]
> > > 
> > 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-members/2005JulSep/0024.htm
> > > l
> > > 
> > 
> > ----- End forwarded message -----
> > 
> > --
> > Carine Bournez -+- W3C Sophia-Antipolis
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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