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RE: [fwd] Draft charters for work on Semantics for WS

From: Shi, Xuan <xshi@GEO.WVU.edu>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 08:47:16 -0500
Message-ID: <D81F456794C18B4DA3E2ABC47DBBEEF2094E28@onyx.geo.wvu.edu>
To: "'Battle, Steven Andrew '" <steve.battle@hp.com>
Cc: "'public-sws-ig@w3.org'" <public-sws-ig@w3.org>

Grounding to WSDL limits the power of OWL-S for SWS deployment.

As a service provider, you described your service in OWL-S. Then as a
service requester, if I send a request exactly based on your service
description, you should understand how to process my request.

Since this request, an XML document, can be sent to you either via WSDL/SOAP
or via HTTP/POST or another Internet protocol, thus your choice of grounding
to WSDL limits OWL-S' deployment in more broadly applications. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Battle, Steven Andrew
To: public-sws-ig@w3.org
Sent: 11/16/05 5:28 AM
Subject: RE: [fwd] Draft charters for work on Semantics for WS

The WSDL-S team openly acknowledge the strong relationship between
WSDL-S and OWL-S, so this should be clarified in the SAW working group
charter, which currently recognises only once source of input. One can
see the core elements of WSDL-S in the OWL-S submission. This identifies
OWL-S extensions for WSDL message (owl-s-parameter), binding and
operation (owl-s-process) definitions.

The relevant sections of the OWL-S submission can be found in section

This proposal is exactly along the lines of the WSDL working group
charter. I feel strongly that in the interests of clarity the sentence
below in the charter should be revised:

"A Member Submission, WSDL-S, related to this work, has been
acknowledged by W3C and should be used as one input to the Working

To something like:

"Member Submissions related to this work, WSDL-S and OWL-S (see
'Grounding OWL-S Services with WSDL and SOAP'), have been acknowledged
by W3C and should be used as input to the Working Group."

Steve Battle (Hewlett-Packard). 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-sws-ig-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:public-sws-ig-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Carine Bournez
> Sent: 15 November 2005 14:15
> To: public-sws-ig@w3.org
> Cc: www-ws@w3.org
> Subject: [fwd] Draft charters for work on Semantics for WS
> This is a copy of an announcement sent last week to the W3C 
> membership (on the member-ws@w3.org mailing list).
> All comments welcome! (for non members, on the 
> public-sws-ig@w3.org mailing list). Thank you.
> > 
> > Following the announcement in [1], two charters have been drafted, 
> > corresponding to the two points previously described.
> > 
> > The first one is a Semantics for Web Services 
> Characterization Group.
> > 
> > 	http://www.w3.org/2005/10/sws-charac-charter.html
> > 
> > It specifically includes 4 issues to discuss.
> > 
> > The second one is Semantic Annotations for WSDL Working Group.
> > 
> > 	http://www.w3.org/2005/10/sa-ws-charter.html
> > 
> > 
> > Discussion on both these charters should happen on this 
> mailing list 
> > (member-ws@w3.org).
> > Thank you!
> > 
> > 
> > [1] 
> > 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-members/2005JulSep/0024.htm
> > l
> > 
> ----- End forwarded message -----
> --
> Carine Bournez -+- W3C Sophia-Antipolis 
Received on Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:47:19 UTC

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