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Re: Minutes of our meeting:

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:40:15 -0500
Message-ID: <45D47EDF.6000205@openlinksw.com>
CC: public-sweo-ig@w3.org

Ivan Herman wrote:
> Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>   
>> Ivan Herman wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> <<<
>>>    ivan: asks for kjetil's next step plans
>>>
>>>    <leobard> kjetilk: the data projects are promising
>>>
>>>    kjetilk: try to make projects proceed somehow, maybe give some
>>>    exposure already
>>>
>>>    susie: maybe the rest of the group could have a look at the list and
>>>    collect some comments wrt chance to being successful etc
>>>
>>>    <leobard> susie: next week we can select which project we support
>>>
>>>    ivan: linked data seems to have the largest impact, but may not
>>>    really match the idea of convincing outsiders, as its more data
>>>    oriented, not really app-focused
>>>
>>>    <leobard> ivan: the "linking open data" project's value is only for
>>>    semantic web geeks.
>>>
>>>    <LeeF> +1 to ivan's take on the projects
>>>
>>>    ivan: on the other hand: an excellent project that may be a
>>>    prerequisite for other ones
>>>
>>>    <leobard> ivan: we want to have several projects we give publicity
>>>
>>>    <leobard> ivan: not only one or two projects
>>>
>>>    <wing> nice, kjetilk
>>>
>>>    kjetilk: agrees with ivan that his project is, without being biased,
>>>    is more useful for the showing side
>>>    ... ;)
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>> Ivan / Lee,
>>
>> The Linking Data Project is in no shape of form Geek oriented. This is
>> unfortunately an incorrect characterization of the project.
>>
>> The last thing Chris, Richard, Stefano, myself, and others have in mind
>> is yet another Semantic Web Geek Project. We are all very
>> anti-semantic-web-geek. This is why we have specifically set a goal to
>> make this project usable by the hypothetical Grandma.
>>
>> Please send some specific questions about this project that can aid in
>> correcting the current misconceptions.
>>
>>
>>     
>
>
> Kingsley,
>
> this was not a critique of the project itself. At all! I think it is a
> great an extremely important project, you not have to convince me on this.
>   
Ivan,

Didn't take as a criticism :-) I am preoccupied with the misconception.
> The only thing I said (and others seemed to agree): the goal of *this*
> sweo exersize was to come up with project proposals that would
> immediately demonstrate for *non-Semantic Web* people the power and the
> possibilities of the Semantic Web. On the other hand, to really
> appreciate the importance, future potential, and the value of the
> Semantic linking project you already have to know and understand what is
> happening. That is all.
>   

The none geek exposure to the Semantic Web is the essence of the 
project. I think the problem is that the project page doesn't clearly 
unveil this. The chatter in the project mailing list is centered on this 
very matter of none geek exposure to the Semantic Web's prowess.

> Having said that: we agreed that we would collect (via Susie) our
> 'votes' for the projects. Although this vote is supposed to be
> confidential, I have no problem acknowledging that I *will* put a vote
> against that project, too. But we have to recognize that it is different
> than the others, and we may have to treat it a bit differently than the
> others (in our messaging, things like that).
>   

As I indicated in my reply to Kjetil. What does SWEO support entail? 
Like my earlier comments about RDF the Model and RDF Serializations 
formats, there is a little issue that I am desperately trying to avert. 
Once I understand (with clarity) what SWEO support of one of these 
project implies, I can then be a little clearer about my concerns should 
they remain.

Thus, I need a little clarity.

Kingsley


> Ivan
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Regards,

Kingsley Idehen	      Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
President & CEO 
OpenLink Software     Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
Received on Thursday, 15 February 2007 15:40:30 GMT

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