RE: Review for RDFa Primer

David,

Great to hear that you plan to join us!

I'll be around at ISWC and would love to meet up
with RDFa folks as well ...

Regarding the formal bits: You need to actually join 
a Working Group (I joined SWD [1]) - your W3C AC 
representative should be able to tell how)

An aside: The RDFa TF is jointly hosted by SWD WG and XHTML2 WG ...

Cheers,
	Michael

[1] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/ (see 'Members' section)

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 Michael Hausenblas, MSc.
 Institute of Information Systems & Information Management
 JOANNEUM RESEARCH Forschungsgesellschaft mbH
  
 http://www.joanneum.at/iis/
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf-request@w3.org 
>[mailto:public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of 
>David Peterson
>Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 5:01 AM
>To: 'Ben Adida'
>Cc: 'RDFa'; 'SWD WG'
>Subject: RE: Review for RDFa Primer
>
>
>Hello,
>
>I have been lurking for months now and also trying to 
>implement RDFa so I am
>(kinda) up-to-date with things. Justin's points and Ben's 
>response struck a
>chord. I would like to give you some of the needed manpower. I 
>work with
>BoaB interactive [1] and we just recently joined the W3C. We 
>do a number of
>things and one of them is a CMS for science groups. I have 
>struggled to get
>RDFa to work once the pages are "in the wild".
>
>So I would like to work on use cases or testing and also I have some
>suggestions (mostly about strictness and HTML4). I am also 
>presenting at a
>big tech conference in Sydney and would love to have some 
>excellent talking
>points as to why RDFa is the answer (and I believe it is, just 
>need to talk
>more with you all).
>
>I will be attending ISWC2007 in Busan, South Korea (Nov 
>11-15). Anyone in
>this list going to be there? If so I would rather enjoy 
>sitting down and
>hashing out issues and ideas.
>
>And lastly, how do I officially join the RDFa group? I am 
>BoaB's AC rep. If
>there is a page somewhere please point me in the right 
>direction, again we
>just joined the W3C and I haven't had the time to read all the 
>details on
>joining.
>
>
>David Peterson
>
>
>[1] BoaB interactive
>http://www.boabinteractive.com.au/
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf-request@w3.org [mailto:public-rdf-in-
>> xhtml-tf-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Ben Adida
>> Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2007 7:29 AM
>> To: Justin Thorp
>> Cc: Manu Sporny; RDFa; SWD WG
>> Subject: Re: Review for RDFa Primer
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All good points, although we are low on manpower.
>> 
>> [Ben puts his TF chair hat on]
>> 
>> Interested in helping us out with this? Having the "outsider
>> perspective" on these issues would be *very* helpful, as 
>we've already
>> seen with Manu's contributions.
>> 
>> -Ben
>> 
>> Justin Thorp wrote:
>> > Are there any plans for submitting articles to A List Apart or
>> approaching the Microformats community and starting a 
>discussion about
>> the differences between RDFa and Microformats?
>> >
>> > In addition to blog posts, is there going to be an FAQ coming from
>> the W3C which addresses some of these questions?
>> >
>> > Just would want to make sure that we don't assume anything 
>about what
>> folks do or do not understand.
>> >
>> > cheers,
>> > - justin
>> >
>> >
>> > ******************
>> > Justin Thorp
>> > US Library of Congress
>> > Web Services - Office of Strategic Initiatives
>> > e - juth@loc.gov
>> > p - 202/707-9541
>> >
>> >>>> Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> 10/9/2007 8:50 PM >>>
>> >
>> > Ben Adida wrote:
>> >>> As Joe Developer, I wanna know how does RDFa relate to
>> microformats?
>> >>> Is RDFa a replacement for microformats?  Do they work together
>> >>> somehow?
>> >> Manu Sporny is currently writing up a document that 
>explains why his
>> >> group needed more than microformats and chose RDFa. He's also
>> writing up
>> >> how their final solution uses both.
>> >
>> > The document, which is a work in progress, can be found here:
>> >
>> > http://wiki.digitalbazaar.com/en/haudio-case-study
>> >
>> > To summarize, there is room in this world for both - each 
>addresses a
>> > slightly different problem domain.
>> >
>> > As far as we (Digital Bazaar) see it, RDFa is a 
>technically brilliant
>> > solution for adding semantics to web pages. It takes a 
>de-centralized
>> > approach to creating vocabularies.
>> >
>> > Microformats are beautiful in their simplicity. Simplicity has also
>> led
>> > to markup restrictions, which is okay - the community is more
>> interested
>> > in embedding semantics into the web than being the final solution.
>> The
>> > uF community takes a centralized approach to creating vocabularies.
>> >
>> > The document linked to above goes into some of the 
>specific benefits
>> and
>> > problems of working with both Microformats and RDFa. It is meant to
>> be
>> > accessible to most web publishers.
>> >
>> > -- manu
>> >
>> > --
>> > Manu Sporny
>> > President/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
>> > blog: Bitmunk Launches World's First Open Music Recommendation
>> Service
>> > http://blog.digitalbazaar.com/2007/09/09/bitmunk-music-
>> recommendation/
>> >
>> >
>> >
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