Re: Review for RDFa Primer

David,

warm welcome!

I will be at ISWC. Arriving Sunday, leaving Friday, and staying at the
Riviera hotel.

Unfortunately, Korea is one of the two countries I know of where my
mobile does not work (the other being Japan):-(. But I hope there will
be email and/or irc... I am sure we will find one another!

Ivan

David Peterson wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have been lurking for months now and also trying to implement RDFa so I am
> (kinda) up-to-date with things. Justin's points and Ben's response struck a
> chord. I would like to give you some of the needed manpower. I work with
> BoaB interactive [1] and we just recently joined the W3C. We do a number of
> things and one of them is a CMS for science groups. I have struggled to get
> RDFa to work once the pages are "in the wild".
> 
> So I would like to work on use cases or testing and also I have some
> suggestions (mostly about strictness and HTML4). I am also presenting at a
> big tech conference in Sydney and would love to have some excellent talking
> points as to why RDFa is the answer (and I believe it is, just need to talk
> more with you all).
> 
> I will be attending ISWC2007 in Busan, South Korea (Nov 11-15). Anyone in
> this list going to be there? If so I would rather enjoy sitting down and
> hashing out issues and ideas.
> 
> And lastly, how do I officially join the RDFa group? I am BoaB's AC rep. If
> there is a page somewhere please point me in the right direction, again we
> just joined the W3C and I haven't had the time to read all the details on
> joining.
> 
> 
> David Peterson
> 
> 
> [1] BoaB interactive
> http://www.boabinteractive.com.au/
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf-request@w3.org [mailto:public-rdf-in-
>> xhtml-tf-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Ben Adida
>> Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2007 7:29 AM
>> To: Justin Thorp
>> Cc: Manu Sporny; RDFa; SWD WG
>> Subject: Re: Review for RDFa Primer
>>
>>
>>
>> All good points, although we are low on manpower.
>>
>> [Ben puts his TF chair hat on]
>>
>> Interested in helping us out with this? Having the "outsider
>> perspective" on these issues would be *very* helpful, as we've already
>> seen with Manu's contributions.
>>
>> -Ben
>>
>> Justin Thorp wrote:
>>> Are there any plans for submitting articles to A List Apart or
>> approaching the Microformats community and starting a discussion about
>> the differences between RDFa and Microformats?
>>> In addition to blog posts, is there going to be an FAQ coming from
>> the W3C which addresses some of these questions?
>>> Just would want to make sure that we don't assume anything about what
>> folks do or do not understand.
>>> cheers,
>>> - justin
>>>
>>>
>>> ******************
>>> Justin Thorp
>>> US Library of Congress
>>> Web Services - Office of Strategic Initiatives
>>> e - juth@loc.gov
>>> p - 202/707-9541
>>>
>>>>>> Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> 10/9/2007 8:50 PM >>>
>>> Ben Adida wrote:
>>>>> As Joe Developer, I wanna know how does RDFa relate to
>> microformats?
>>>>> Is RDFa a replacement for microformats?  Do they work together
>>>>> somehow?
>>>> Manu Sporny is currently writing up a document that explains why his
>>>> group needed more than microformats and chose RDFa. He's also
>> writing up
>>>> how their final solution uses both.
>>> The document, which is a work in progress, can be found here:
>>>
>>> http://wiki.digitalbazaar.com/en/haudio-case-study
>>>
>>> To summarize, there is room in this world for both - each addresses a
>>> slightly different problem domain.
>>>
>>> As far as we (Digital Bazaar) see it, RDFa is a technically brilliant
>>> solution for adding semantics to web pages. It takes a de-centralized
>>> approach to creating vocabularies.
>>>
>>> Microformats are beautiful in their simplicity. Simplicity has also
>> led
>>> to markup restrictions, which is okay - the community is more
>> interested
>>> in embedding semantics into the web than being the final solution.
>> The
>>> uF community takes a centralized approach to creating vocabularies.
>>>
>>> The document linked to above goes into some of the specific benefits
>> and
>>> problems of working with both Microformats and RDFa. It is meant to
>> be
>>> accessible to most web publishers.
>>>
>>> -- manu
>>>
>>> --
>>> Manu Sporny
>>> President/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
>>> blog: Bitmunk Launches World's First Open Music Recommendation
>> Service
>>> http://blog.digitalbazaar.com/2007/09/09/bitmunk-music-
>> recommendation/
>>>
>>>
> 
> 
> 
> 

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