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SVG and Digital Publishing (Fwd: SVG2 <-> IDPF liaison)

From: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 09:53:52 -0400
Message-ID: <514C6270.1070504@w3.org>
To: "public-svg-wg@w3.org" <public-svg-wg@w3.org>, MURATA Makoto <eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp>, Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
Hi, folks-

We should think about how best to coordinate with IDPF. It will be great 
to have Murata-san as liaison, but we should also have an effort to 
drive use cases and requirements.

There is a digital publishing (eBooks) workshop planned for June 4 in Tokyo.

Unfortunately, this ovelaps the SVG WG f2f, but it was the only 
available date available that didn't overlap the CSS WG f2f.  (Both the 
SVG and CSS f2fs are at Mozilla Japan's Roppongi Office,right?)

The W3C Digital Publishing Team and the Japanese stakeholders (Rakuten, 
Sony, NTT, KDDI, etc.) think it would be really useful and appreciated 
to have a joint session with the SVG WG.

If it is possible, Kaz will reserve a meeting room for the SVG WG f2f 
meeting on June 4th.

Regards-
-Doug


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Fw: SVG2 <-> IDPF liaison
Date: 	Thu, 21 Mar 2013 15:51:39 -0500
From: 	Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>
To: 	Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>



FYI: IDPF Liaison.


Rich Schwerdtfeger
----- Forwarded by Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM on 03/21/2013 03:51
PM -----

From: Markus Gylling <markus.gylling@gmail.com>
To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, Erik Dahlstrom
<ed@opera.com>, Cameron McCormack <cam@mcc.id.au>, Susann
Keohane/Austin/IBM@IBMUS,
Cc: George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com>, MURATA Makoto
<eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp>
Date: 03/19/2013 01:45 PM
Subject: Re: SVG2 <-> IDPF liaison

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Hi all,
the IDPF Advanced Hybrid Layouts WG that is currently working on topics
related to SVG had a meeting yesterday and discussed the liaison with
the SVG WG.

One of the co-chairs of the IDPF WG, Murata Makoto (in cc) has offered
to be the SVG liaison on the IDPF side. Makoto, please chime in re your
view on how to best proceed (and also, please see Erik's very reasonable
suggestions on next steps in the thread below).

Best regards, /markus

On Mar 19, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger <_schwer@us.ibm.com_
<mailto:schwer@us.ibm.com>> wrote:


     Hi Erik,

     Yes. This is first post on the use of SVG for Comic "bubbles" as it
     pertains to epub:
     _
 
__http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2013JanMar/0039.html_

     Cam did respond to Fujisawa-san.

     I am copying George Kerscher, who is also active in ePub.

     Rich



     Rich Schwerdtfeger

     <graycol.gif>"Erik Dahlstrom" ---03/19/2013 07:40:50 AM---Hi
     everyone, I think that the SVG WG would at least be interested in
     knowing what the

     From: "Erik Dahlstrom" <_ed@opera.com_ <mailto:ed@opera.com>>
     To: "Markus Gylling" <_markus.gylling@gmail.com_
     <mailto:markus.gylling@gmail.com>>, "Cameron McCormack"
     <_cam@mcc.id.au_ <mailto:cam@mcc.id.au>>, Richard
     Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS,
     Cc: Susann Keohane/Austin/IBM@IBMUS
     Date: 03/19/2013 07:40 AM
     Subject: Re: SVG2 <-> IDPF liaison

 
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     Hi everyone,

     I think that the SVG WG would at least be interested in knowing what
     the
     constraints for ePub are (time and featurewise), and if there are
     any key
     scenarios that aren't met by svg today that ePub/IDPF would
     like/need to
     see addressed.

     Rich, do you happen to have a pointer to the 'bubbles discussion'?

     To give everyone a chance to read up on epub and the topic itself, I'd
     suggest first posting the architectural sketches and the scope from
     IDPF's
     side to the www-svg mailinglist <_www-svg@w3.org_
     <mailto:www-svg@w3.org>>. After that we can put it
     on the SVG WG telcon agenda and invite IDPF to participate.

     The SVG WG has telcons once a week Thursdays at 21.00 UTC, _
 
__http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=03&day=21&year=2013&hour=21&min=00&sec=0&p1=0_.

     Cheers
     /Erik

     On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 20:49:09 +0100, Richard Schwerdtfeger
     <_schwer@us.ibm.com_ <mailto:schwer@us.ibm.com>> wrote:

      >
      > Markus, I am emailing Cameron and Erik who have been chairing SVG.
      > Cameron
      > is out on vacation.
      >
      > Cameron or Erik,
      >
      > This topic is rather important given the uptake of ePub. Would 
you be
      > willing to accept a liaison from ePub to address the use of SVG for
      > comics
      > (remember the bubbles discussion) ... or have a joint call with 
ePub?
      >
      > When we finish the accessibility features for SVG 2 alone it will
     need to
      > be consumed in ePub. There needs to be a migration path.
      >
      > Rich
      >
      >
      > Rich Schwerdtfeger
      >
      >
      >
      > From: Markus Gylling <_markus.gylling@gmail.com_
     <mailto:markus.gylling@gmail.com>>
      > To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS,
      > Cc: Susann Keohane/Austin/IBM@IBMUS
      > Date: 03/04/2013 09:27 AM
      > Subject: Re: SVG2 <-> IDPF liaison
      >
      >
      >
      > Rich, thanks for quick reply. Susan, nice to meet you.
      >
      >
      >
      >       Is your concern wrt. accessibility or is it wrt. overall
     ability to
      >       render comics?
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > Its not specific to accessibility. I think the best way to
     describe it
      > shortly is that the IDPF WG needs general input on how to best
     use SVG
      > for
      > these purposes, especially wrt forward compatibility with SVG 2.0.
      >
      > (If the SVG WG in general is interested, aside from the liaison
      > discussion,
      > perhaps we could think about some kind of meetup (a telcon) where
     the
      > IDPF
      > WG describes its scope and architectural sketches so far.)
      >
      > /markus
      >
      >
      >
      > On Mar 4, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger
     <_schwer@us.ibm.com_ <mailto:schwer@us.ibm.com>>
      > wrote:
      >
      >
      >
      >       Hi Markus,
      >
      >       Good to hear from you. All is well. Thank you for asking.
      >
      >       Yes, I was following the discussion. I am copying Susann
     who is the
      >       IBM participant in IDPF. I posted a comment to the SVG list
     and did
      >       not hear back from anyone.
      >
      >       Is your concern wrt. accessibility or is it wrt. overall
     ability to
      >       render comics?
      >
      >       Rich
      >
      >       Rich Schwerdtfeger
      >
      >       <graycol.gif>Markus Gylling ---03/04/2013 06:21:23 AM---Hi
     Rich,
      >       hope all is well with you.
      >
      >       From: Markus Gylling <_markus.gylling@gmail.com_
     <mailto:markus.gylling@gmail.com>>
      >       To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS,
      >       Date: 03/04/2013 06:21 AM
      >       Subject: SVG2 <-> IDPF liaison
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >       Hi Rich,
      >       hope all is well with you.
      >
      >       I know you are aware that there is a project underway in
     IDPF to
      >       extend EPUB to better support comics and other graphically 
rich
      >       publication types (there has been some postings about it on
     the SVG
      >       WG list).
      >
      >       We are thinking that setting up a liaison between SVGWG and
     IDPF
      >       would be a good idea. Perhaps me reaching out to you for
     this is
      > not
      >       the exact right thing to do, but I was thinking that since you
      >       recently joined IDPF I should touch base with you first.
      >
      >       Ideas, suggestions, or referrals warmly welcome!
      >
      >       Thanks,
      >       /markus
      >


     --
     Erik Dahlstrom, Core Technology Developer, Opera Software
     Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group
     Personal blog: _http://my.opera.com/macdev_ed_
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