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RE: Agenda, 27 June 2013 SVG WG telcon

From: Smailus, Thomas O <Thomas.O.Smailus@boeing.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 08:13:20 -0700
To: Erik Dahlstrom <ed@opera.com>, "public-svg-wg@w3.org" <public-svg-wg@w3.org>
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As I have a meeting right before this one, I may be late or unable to make it back to my desk in time to dial in but I'll try.

With regards to the SVG text wrapping:
My instinct tells me that text width and height, for the purposes of defining a region relative to the text which would cause text wrapping, or control, should be defined relative to the text's base line, so height is orthogonal to the baseline.  E.G. if a horizontal text string is vertical by rotating counter clock wise 90 degrees, then positive height goes to the left, and positive width goes to the top.

How would width and height be defined otherwise, if the text baseline is rotated at some arbitrary angle - such as 35 degrees?  What is width and height in that context?

textLength Use Case:
I know I still owe the group a post on my use case for textLength (and in conjunction with font size) as to define a bounding box that a text item should fill with an even distribution of the glyphs.

Thomas Smailus, Ph.D., P.E. 
Senior Advanced Information Technologist
Boeing Research & Technology 
SVG Forum CoP Lead | Intelligent Graphics SVG lead

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-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Dahlstrom [mailto:ed@opera.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 05:44
To: public-svg-wg@w3.org
Subject: Agenda, 27 June 2013 SVG WG telcon

Hello everyone,
the agenda for this week's call is below.


Phone: +1 617-761-6200 (US) or
           zakim@voip.w3.org (SIP)
Conference code: SVG1# (7841#)
IRC for minutes/discussion: #svg on irc.w3.org, port 6665 Agenda requests: http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Agenda

* Questions concerning multiple paints, see https://svgwg.org/svg2-draft/painting.html

   - Should the document be in error if a non-final paint-server reference is invalid? (Only the last paint-server has a fallback.)
   - How should 'child' behave with allowing multiple paints?

* Should text-overflow apply to text-on-path?

* SVG2 Text wrapping - new definition of 'width'?
   SVG 2 has already added 'width' to <text> for use with text-overflow (but 'height' has not been added). In Doug's wrapping-context proposal, 'width' defines a retangular wrapping context for horizontal text while 'height' defines a rectangular wrapping context for vertical text.  
text-overflow only applies if both a 'width' and 'height' are specified.  
Can we agree to this new definition of 'width'?

Erik Dahlstrom, Core Technology Developer, Opera Software Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group Personal blog: http://my.opera.com/macdev_ed

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