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RE: Full 1.1 Test Suite Status Updated

From: Alex Danilo <alex@abbra.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:04:37 +1100
Message-Id: <PVAYBL.95FNQ90LIAEF@abbra.com>
To: SVG Working Group WG <public-svg-wg@w3.org>
Hi Patrick,

	For the tests:

>Still includes SVG fonts which is not germane to the test : Request, remove SVG Font or replace with WOFF (perhaps Chris is just still updating, or perhaps I missed a few from before)
>render-elems-06-t.svg		
>render-elems-07-t.svg		
>render-elems-08-t.svg		
>render-groups-03-t.svg	
><snip/>
>These should be using WOFF, not OpenType, and the font doesn't exist text-fonts-202-t.svg text-fonts-203-t.svg
><snip/>

The '-t' on the end of these tests indicates that it is targeted
at SVG Tiny profile UAs of which there are close to a billion units
shipped out in the field already.

WOFF is not an option for these tests. They are aimed at SVG user agents,
not compound document handling web browsers disguised as universal application
platforms facilitating operating system redundancy:-).

WOFF is a _Working Draft_ last published on 27th July 2010. It is a long
way from Recommendation status and as such, completely unsuitable for being
referenced in any test for features in a W3C Recommendation.

I know from your point of view the request seems advantageous for convenience,
but it is incompatible with the process, and effectively breaks all the
Tiny implementations being shipped today.

If there is to be a font change, it should be removal of all text display
in the test or fallback to a system font, not WOFF.

Also, why are you mailing 'www-svg' with these comments? This is a working
group issue and involves the W3C process and working group and should
have been mailed to <public-svg-wg@w3.org>. Anthony originally mailed
www-svg as an update to the community, development work by the group
and its associated email threads does not belong there. Interested
parties can always read the public WG list and then email here with
outrage at the stupid decisions the group is making;-)

Alex


--Original Message--:
>Here is our updated analysis of this test suite.  We appreciate everyone's effort thus far.  I've also included Cameron's specific outstanding questions at the end (Thanks Cameron for following up).  Let's see if we can polish these lasts ones up and get to a final test suite soon.
>
>Still includes SVG fonts and SMIL. An animate version was created; but this still includes SVGFonts which is not germane to the test : Request, remove SVG Font or replace with WOFF; remove SMIL 
>interact-pevents-04-t.svg	
>
>Still includes SVG fonts which is not germane to the test : Request, remove SVG Font or replace with WOFF (perhaps Chris is just still updating, or perhaps I missed a few from before)
>render-elems-06-t.svg		
>render-elems-07-t.svg		
>render-elems-08-t.svg		
>render-groups-01-b.svg	
>render-groups-03-t.svg	
>text-align-08-b.svg
>text-text-06-t.svg	
>text-dom-01-f.svg
>text-dom-02-f.svg
>text-dom-03-f.svg
>text-dom-04-f.svg
>text-dom-05-f.svg
>
>Reference image still seems explicitly wrong; in addition to these, the version number does not yet match in others which I think is an open issue struct-image-13-f.svg struct-image-14-f.svg struct-image-15-f.svg text-align-07-t.svg
>
>I believe that no browser passes the test below.  I think part of that is due to the poor definition of :active (we don't pass it right now for focus).  We should consider dropping this test, or at least removing the :active.
>styling-css-06-b.svg
>
>These should be using WOFF, not OpenType, and the font doesn't exist text-fonts-202-t.svg text-fonts-203-t.svg
>
>>From Cameron:
>Updates for the following will be checked in by EOW (or earlier) 
>pservers-grad-23-f.svg 
>struct-dom-16-f.svg 
>types-dom-svgfittoviewbox-01-f.svg
>text-fonts-05-f.svg
>
>Requested additional subtests ,but we don't think the requests on this should be subtests but rather additional tests if needed 
>pservers-pattern-06-f.svg ()
>painting-marker-properties-01-f.svg 
>
>We are not clear on the final outcome of the thread (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2010OctDec/0072.html) on this topic.  Are there any actionably items?
>interact-pointer-04-f.svg 
>
>Patrick
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: www-svg-request@w3.org [mailto:www-svg-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Anthony Grasso
>Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 4:42 PM
>To: www-svg@w3.org
>Subject: Full 1.1 Test Suite Status Updated
>
>Hi WG,
>
>As per the telephone conference discussion this morning [1], I've updated the test suite status report for all the tests as they are currently in the Full 1.1 Test Suite.
>
>The updated status report is now committed.
>
>Cheers,
>Anthony
>
>
>[1] http://www.w3.org/2010/11/11-svg-minutes.html
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