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Re: state of the art

From: Leo Sauermann <leo.sauermann@dfki.de>
Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:29:32 +0200
Message-ID: <4A4DEB9C.7040605@dfki.de>
To: Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@googlemail.com>
CC: Tim rdf <timrdf@gmail.com>, Andreas Harth <andreas.harth@deri.org>, public-semweb-ui@w3.org
hi,

it seems you guys never used esw wiki, so some more info about it.
anyway, I personally don't care much if its twine or ESW, but I will 
answer some questions about ESW,
as it is one of the longest running, and biggest, community sites on 
semantic web.

It was Paola Di Maio who said at the right time 02.07.2009 16:06 the 
following words:
>
> Also, does anyone else thinks that the GUI of the page below could be 
> improved and wonder if that tells something :
>
>  http://esw.w3.org/topic/SemanticWebUsability
hey, this is web 2.0.
This is a wiki - you have ideas to make it better, then do so.

if you don't like what you see, delete it.

>
>
> Also, ideally,  shouldnt we all be able to publish thing where we 
> favour, and then link them?
like here?
http://esw.w3.org/topic/FrontPage
or here?
http://esw.w3.org/topic/ConverterToRdf
or here?
http://esw.w3.org/topic/VocabularyMarket

this is all what the ESW is for - keeping the links to important 
resources about the semantic web.

I have both a private link collection (on delicious and my semantic 
desktop) but also try to keep esw updated,
the same do many people from W3C.


>
> do we need an ontology of semantic web usability expressed in RDF? or 
> something?
no, just links and text
>
> I would like to link our workshop stuff papers, presentations etc) 
> from ASWC in Bangkok, too
sure, go ahead.

as said, twine is also fine, but esw has been there before and has much 
more and detailled material than anything else,
and is from w3c.

best
Leo
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Leo Sauermann <leo.sauermann@dfki.de 
> <mailto:leo.sauermann@dfki.de>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     twine is closed, I would rather propose to use the ESW wiki by W3C.
>
>     I can't contribute nor coordinate this the next months, I just
>     moved to vienna
>     and need to get internet and other things....
>
>     best
>     Leo
>
>     It was Tim rdf who said at the right time 27.06.2009 00:30 the
>     following words:
>>     Leo,
>>
>>     I am very much interested in the objectives you outline and would
>>     like to contribute. I will follow the additions to the wiki.
>>
>>     I created two Twines for Semantic Web Usability a while ago, but
>>     have not found anyone interested in the topic. Please feel free
>>     to tuck things there as well -- perhaps we could get some
>>     critical mass. Within a twine, we can comment on each artifact we
>>     post.
>>
>>     http://www.twine.com/twine/116nk1j23-c11/semantic-web-user-interfaces
>>
>>     http://www.twine.com/twine/116nlm5b5-c21/semantic-web-user-interaction
>>
>>     Regards,
>>     Tim Lebo
>>
>>
>>
>>         I like the idea of a collection of state-of-the-art, and will
>>         contribute, but only if I can edit myself and am sure that
>>         the state-of-the-art will be there the next years in public
>>         domain.
>>         The place where I am sure that it will remain open, and which
>>         is already the place where all other discussions about the
>>         Semantic Web happen, is the ESW wiki.
>>         I added a page here for you:
>>          http://esw.w3.org/topic/SemanticWebUsability
>>
>>
>>      
>>
>>
>>         Rather, take exsiting tools and compare them against the
>>         vision -
>>          can your grandma find a doctor in her neighbourhood that
>>         will accept her Health Insurance and treat her illness?
>>         (This was the guiding example of "The Semantic Web", 2001,
>>         Timbl et al)
>>         so - can facetted browisng help?
>>         can xy help?
>>
>>         etc.
>>
>>         best
>>         Leo
>>
>>         I would also humbly suggest to look at the usability concerns
>>         that are addressed in KDE 4.0, which has an RDF based
>>         metadata layer.
>>         In our NEPOMUK project we are currently working on the
>>         biggest deployment of Semantic Web technology (especially
>>         RDF) ever, reaching half of all linux users... much usability
>>         to study there.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313
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