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Re: SKOS/Datasets

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:59:36 -0500
Message-ID: <4B8E7958.7060001@openlinksw.com>
To: Ross Singer <rossfsinger@gmail.com>
CC: Bernard Vatant <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>, hans.cools@agfa.com, SKOS <public-esw-thes@w3.org>, public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org, Rebecca S Guenther <rgue@loc.gov>
Ross Singer wrote:
> By the way, I also made the MARC Language codes, Geographic Area Codes 
> and Country codes available as RDF, as well:
>
> http://purl.org/NET/marccodes/
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> They aren't modeled as SKOS, but somehow seem relevant to this thread 
> (or maybe not).  I'm a little torn as to whether or not it's even 
> appropriate to do so.  Bernard, do you have a plan for how (or if) you 
> will link lingvoj's Lingvos to id.loc.gov <http://id.loc.gov>'s 
> language resources, if they are indeed skos:Concepts?
Ross,

Are you able to add a <link/> based reference to the master RDF resource 
from <http://purl.org/NET/marccodes/> ?

Also, please add a relation to your RDF doc that connects it to the 
entities it describes. To demonstrate the point:

1. 
http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/html/http/marccodes.heroku.com/countries/aa 
-- attempts to describe the RDF document, but it isn't in any relation 
re. the triples it hosts
2. 
http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/ode/?uri%5B%5D=http%3A%2F%2Flinkeddata.uriburner.com%2Fabout%2Fid%2Fentity%2Fhttp%2Fmarccodes.heroku.com%2Fcountries%2Faa&  
-- Explores the RDF docs content

Kingsley
>
> Thanks,
> -Ross.
>
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Bernard Vatant 
> <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com <mailto:bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Hans
>
>     Regarding languages in ISO 639, are you aware of the URIs /
>     ontology I've made public since 2007 at http://lingvoj.org?
>     Also in copy is Rebecca Guenther in charge of ISO 639 codes at
>     Library of Congress, according to whom a publication of ISO 639
>     codes in SKOS was on the LoC roadmap.
>     See http://id.loc.gov/authorities/about.html
>
>     My idea at lingvoj.org <http://lingvoj.org> like yours, I guess,
>     was to provide placeholderURIs default any publication by the
>     authoritative ISO source. As soon as authoritative URIs are
>     published by the relevant source, we should in good practice
>     deprecate our URIs to those. Except we have no specific RDF
>     vocabulary for URI lifecycle, such as "deprecatedResource" and
>     "replacedBy", but that another story. At least we have owl:sameAs :)
>
>     Rebecca, any idea when id.loc.gov <http://id.loc.gov> is likely to
>     release ISO 639 URIs?
>
>     On a more technical level I uploaded your language ontology in
>     Protégé 4 and saved in RDF-XML (I belong to this strange sort of
>     people reading better XML than text formats for RDF and the result
>     is a bit weird : the blank nodes representing Concepts linked to
>     Language instances through skos:exactMatch are broken, e.g., see
>     below [1]. Seems that Protégé is not happy with your user-defined
>     datatype for notations :(
>
>     BTW why not representing Language directly as a sub-class of
>     skos:Concept and attach each to the various schemes (ISO 639-1,
>     639-2, 639-3) it belongs to? Something I don't define at
>     lingvoj.org <http://lingvoj.org>, bu which seems a good idea to
>     add. Put it on my todo list.
>
>     Bernard
>
>     [1] Output of Protégé 4 RDF-XML for "French"
>
>         <foster:Language rdf:about="fre">
>             <rdf:type rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#Thing"/>
>             <rdfs:isDefinedBy
>     rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#anyURI"
>                
>     >http://eulersharp.sourceforge.net/2003/03swap/languages#</rdfs:isDefinedBy>
>             <foaf:name xml:lang="en">French</foaf:name>
>             <skos:exactMatch>
>                 <rdf:Description/>
>             </skos:exactMatch>
>             <skos:exactMatch>
>                 <rdf:Description/>
>             </skos:exactMatch>
>         </foster:Language>
>         <rdf:Description>
>             <skos:inScheme rdf:resource="iso639-1"/>
>         </rdf:Description>
>         <rdf:Description>
>             <skos:inScheme rdf:resource="iso639-2"/>
>         </rdf:Description>
>         <rdf:Description>
>             <skos:notation
>     rdf:datatype="http://eulersharp.sourceforge.net/2003/03swap/languages#iso639-2DT">fre</skos:notation>
>         </rdf:Description>
>         <rdf:Description>
>             <skos:notation
>     rdf:datatype="http://eulersharp.sourceforge.net/2003/03swap/languages#iso639-1DT">fr</skos:notation>
>         </rdf:Description>
>
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>     2010/2/26 <hans.cools@agfa.com <mailto:hans.cools@agfa.com>>
>
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>         Dear Antoine,
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>         I've put 3 links on page
>         http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/SKOS/Datasets:
>
>         - country codes as standardized in ISO 3166-1 version 2006;
>         - languages codes as standardized in ISO 639;
>         - clinical drug administration forms along FDA.
>         Note: namespaces on http://www.agfa.com/w3c/2009/ not fixed yet.
>
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>         Kind Regards,
>         *
>         Hans Cools | **Agfa HealthCare*
>         Researcher | HE/Advanced Clinical Applications Research
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>         *Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl <mailto:aisaac@few.vu.nl>>*
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>         26/02/2010 09:34
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>         	
>         To
>         	Hans Cools/AXCXW/AGFA@AGFA, SKOS <public-esw-thes@w3.org
>         <mailto:public-esw-thes@w3.org>>
>         cc
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>         Subject
>         	Fwd: [DIGLIB] Re: Request for "Good" Ontologies
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>         Dear Hans,
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>         Your following 'ontology' looks interesting, and might
>         interest some people on the SKOS list!
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>         Could you advertise it as well on
>         http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/SKOS/Datasets ?
>
>         Cheers,
>
>         Antoine
>
>         -------- Original Message --------
>         Subject:                  [DIGLIB] Re: Request for "Good"
>         Ontologies
>         Date:                  Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:06:00 +0100
>         From:                  hans.cools@agfa.com
>         <mailto:hans.cools@agfa.com>
>         To:                  uschold@gmail.com <mailto:uschold@gmail.com>
>         CC:                  diglib@infoserv.inist.fr
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>         Dear Michael,
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>         As an exaple of our ontology series, we put 'Countries' on
>         http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Ontology:Main, using SKOS.
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>         Kind Regards,
>         *
>         Hans Cools | **Agfa HealthCare*
>         Researcher | HE/Advanced Clinical Applications Research
>         T +32 3444 8185 | F +32 3 444 8401 | M +32 499 59 55 75
>
>         Quadrat NV, Kortrijksesteenweg 157, 9830 Sint-Martens-Latem,
>         Belgium
>         http://www.agfa.com/healthcare/
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>         *Michael F Uschold <uschold@gmail.com <mailto:uschold@gmail.com>>*
>         Sent by: public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org
>         <mailto:public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org>
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>         18/02/2010 07:03
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>         To
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>         Subject
>                         Request for "Good" Ontologies
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>         This message is about an effort you may wish to know about and
>         hopefully
>         contribute to.
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>         *WHAT: T*he _NeOn project_ <http://www.neon-project.org/> is
>         supporting
>         an effort to collect high quality ontologies.
>
>         I invite you to submit one or more "_exemplary ontologies_
>         <http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:WhatIsAnExemplaryOntology>"
>         to a growing catalog in the _Ontology Design Patterns Wiki_
>         <http://www.ontologydesignpatterns.org/>.
>         Identify one or more ontologies that:
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>             * you have significant knowledge or experience with,
>             * you regard as an excellent example of a "high quality"
>         ontology
>               See: "_What is an Exemplary Ontology_
>              
>         <http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:WhatIsAnExemplaryOntology>"
>               for ideas about this; edit them if you wish.
>
>         Can you or any of your colleagues think of exemplary
>         ontologies to add
>         to the catalog? Think first about the ontologies you have used
>         that are
>         authored by others, rather than your own.
>
>         *WHY: * /to make it easy for people to find good ontologies to
>         draw
>         inspiration from and to emulate./
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>         If you don't have much time, I will make it easier by talking you
>         through it on the phone. I'm UscholdM on Skype.
>
>         *HOW: *Quick Instructions:
>         1. Visit *_Ontology Design Patterns Wiki_*
>         <http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/>
>         (_http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/_)
>         2. Click the "*_How to register_*
>         <http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:Register>" link at
>         lower
>         left of the page; follow instructions to get a login name and
>         password.
>         ---Or paste:
>         _http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:Register_ into
>         your browser
>         3. See: "*_What is an Exemplary Ontology_*
>         <http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:WhatIsAnExemplaryOntology>"
>         link for some criteria
>         ---Or paste:
>         h_ttp://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:WhatIsAnExemplaryOntology_
>         <http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:WhatIsAnExemplaryOntology_>
>         <http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:WhatIsAnExemplaryOntology>
>         into your browser
>         4. Visit *Exemplary Ontology Catalogue*
>         <http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Ontology:Main> page to
>         make sure
>         the ontology is not already there.
>         ---Or paste:
>         _http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Ontology:Main_ into
>         your browser
>         5. Click the *Su/bmit a new Exemplary Ontology/* button.
>         6. Fill out a form describing various aspects of the exemplary
>         ontology.
>         Key fields are:
>         1. *Name *of ontology
>         2. *Description *(Short)
>         3. *Purpose *of the ontology
>         4. *Justification *(why you think this is an exemplary ontology)
>         5. *URI *of where to find the ontology
>         6. *References *One or more references to learn more.
>         Thanks very much,
>         Michael
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>     -- 
>     Bernard Vatant
>     Senior Consultant
>     Vocabulary & Data Engineering
>     Tel:       +33 (0) 971 488 459
>     Mail:     bernard.vatant@mondeca.com
>     <mailto:bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>
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