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Re: SKOS/Datasets

From: Ross Singer <rossfsinger@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 22:24:44 -0500
Message-ID: <23b83f161003021924w5225b83bn7af6f302fdf055eb@mail.gmail.com>
To: Bernard Vatant <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>
Cc: hans.cools@agfa.com, SKOS <public-esw-thes@w3.org>, public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org, Rebecca S Guenther <rgue@loc.gov>
By the way, I also made the MARC Language codes, Geographic Area Codes and
Country codes available as RDF, as well:

http://purl.org/NET/marccodes/

They aren't modeled as SKOS, but somehow seem relevant to this thread (or
maybe not).  I'm a little torn as to whether or not it's even appropriate to
do so.  Bernard, do you have a plan for how (or if) you will link lingvoj's
Lingvos to id.loc.gov's language resources, if they are indeed
skos:Concepts?

Thanks,
-Ross.

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Bernard Vatant
<bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>wrote:

> Hi Hans
>
> Regarding languages in ISO 639, are you aware of the URIs / ontology I've
> made public since 2007 at http://lingvoj.org?
> Also in copy is Rebecca Guenther in charge of ISO 639 codes at Library of
> Congress, according to whom a publication of ISO 639 codes in SKOS was on
> the LoC roadmap.
> See http://id.loc.gov/authorities/about.html
>
> My idea at lingvoj.org like yours, I guess, was to provide placeholderURIs
> default any publication by the authoritative ISO source. As soon as
> authoritative URIs are published by the relevant source, we should in good
> practice deprecate our URIs to those. Except we have no specific RDF
> vocabulary for URI lifecycle, such as "deprecatedResource" and "replacedBy",
> but that another story. At least we have owl:sameAs :)
>
> Rebecca, any idea when id.loc.gov is likely to release ISO 639 URIs?
>
> On a more technical level I uploaded your language ontology in Protégé 4
> and saved in RDF-XML (I belong to this strange sort of people reading better
> XML than text formats for RDF and the result is a bit weird : the blank
> nodes representing Concepts linked to Language instances through
> skos:exactMatch are broken, e.g., see below [1]. Seems that Protégé is not
> happy with your user-defined datatype for notations :(
>
> BTW why not representing Language directly as a sub-class of skos:Concept
> and attach each to the various schemes (ISO 639-1, 639-2, 639-3) it belongs
> to? Something I don't define at lingvoj.org, bu which seems a good idea to
> add. Put it on my todo list.
>
> Bernard
>
> [1] Output of Protégé 4 RDF-XML for "French"
>
>     <foster:Language rdf:about="fre">
>         <rdf:type rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#Thing"/>
>         <rdfs:isDefinedBy rdf:datatype="
> http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#anyURI"
>             >http://eulersharp.sourceforge.net/2003/03swap/languages#
> </rdfs:isDefinedBy>
>         <foaf:name xml:lang="en">French</foaf:name>
>         <skos:exactMatch>
>             <rdf:Description/>
>         </skos:exactMatch>
>         <skos:exactMatch>
>             <rdf:Description/>
>         </skos:exactMatch>
>     </foster:Language>
>     <rdf:Description>
>         <skos:inScheme rdf:resource="iso639-1"/>
>     </rdf:Description>
>     <rdf:Description>
>         <skos:inScheme rdf:resource="iso639-2"/>
>     </rdf:Description>
>     <rdf:Description>
>         <skos:notation rdf:datatype="
> http://eulersharp.sourceforge.net/2003/03swap/languages#iso639-2DT
> ">fre</skos:notation>
>     </rdf:Description>
>     <rdf:Description>
>         <skos:notation rdf:datatype="
> http://eulersharp.sourceforge.net/2003/03swap/languages#iso639-1DT
> ">fr</skos:notation>
>     </rdf:Description>
>
>
> 2010/2/26 <hans.cools@agfa.com>
>
>
>> Dear Antoine,
>>
>> I've put 3 links on page http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/SKOS/Datasets:
>>
>> - country codes as standardized in ISO 3166-1 version 2006;
>> - languages codes as standardized in ISO 639;
>> - clinical drug administration forms along FDA.
>> Note: namespaces on http://www.agfa.com/w3c/2009/ not fixed yet.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> *
>> Hans Cools | **Agfa HealthCare*
>> Researcher | HE/Advanced Clinical Applications Research
>> T  +32 3444 8185 | F  +32 3 444 8401 | M  +32 499 59 55 75
>>
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>> http://www.agfa.com/healthcare/
>>  ------------------------------
>> Click on link to read important disclaimer:
>> http://www.agfa.com/healthcare/maildisclaimer
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>>
>>  *Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>*
>>
>> 26/02/2010 09:34
>>   To
>> Hans Cools/AXCXW/AGFA@AGFA, SKOS <public-esw-thes@w3.org>
>> cc
>>   Subject
>> Fwd: [DIGLIB] Re: Request for "Good" Ontologies
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> Dear Hans,
>>
>> Your following 'ontology' looks interesting, and might interest some
>> people on the SKOS list!
>>
>> Could you advertise it as well on
>> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/SKOS/Datasets ?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Antoine
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject:                  [DIGLIB] Re: Request for "Good" Ontologies
>> Date:                  Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:06:00 +0100
>> From:                  hans.cools@agfa.com
>> To:                  uschold@gmail.com
>> CC:                  diglib@infoserv.inist.fr, dl@dl.kr.org,
>> elsnet-list@mailman.let.uu.nl, obo-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net,
>> owl@gimli.mindlab.umd.edu, people@semanticdesktop.org,
>> protege-discussion@mailman.stanford.edu,
>> protege-owl@mailman.stanford.edu, public-media-annotation@w3.org,
>> public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org, public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org,
>> sem-grd@ogf.org, semanticdesktop@lists.deri.org,
>> semantic_web@googlegroups.com, swikig@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Michael,
>>
>> As an exaple of our ontology series, we put 'Countries' on
>> http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Ontology:Main, using SKOS.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> *
>> Hans Cools | **Agfa HealthCare*
>> Researcher | HE/Advanced Clinical Applications Research
>> T +32 3444 8185 | F +32 3 444 8401 | M +32 499 59 55 75
>>
>> Quadrat NV, Kortrijksesteenweg 157, 9830 Sint-Martens-Latem, Belgium
>> http://www.agfa.com/healthcare/
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Click on link to read important disclaimer:
>> http://www.agfa.com/healthcare/maildisclaimer
>>
>>
>> *Michael F Uschold <uschold@gmail.com>*
>> Sent by: public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org
>>
>> 18/02/2010 07:03
>>
>>
>> To
>>                 owl@lists.mindswap.org, diglib@infoserv.inist.fr,
>> dl@dl.kr.org,
>> elsnet-list@mailman.let.uu.nl, obo-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net,
>> people@semanticdesktop.org, protege-discussion@lists.stanford.edu,
>> protege-owl@lists.stanford.edu, public-media-annotation@w3.org,
>> semanticdesktop@lists.deri.org, semantic_web@googlegroups.com,
>> sem-grd@ogf.org, swikig@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de,
>> public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org
>> cc
>>
>> Subject
>>                 Request for "Good" Ontologies
>>
>>
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>> This message is about an effort you may wish to know about and hopefully
>> contribute to.
>>
>> *WHAT: T*he _NeOn project_ <http://www.neon-project.org/> is supporting
>> an effort to collect high quality ontologies.
>>
>> I invite you to submit one or more "_exemplary ontologies_
>> <http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:WhatIsAnExemplaryOntology>"
>> to a growing catalog in the _Ontology Design Patterns Wiki_
>> <http://www.ontologydesignpatterns.org/>.
>> Identify one or more ontologies that:
>>
>>     * you have significant knowledge or experience with,
>>     * you regard as an excellent example of a "high quality" ontology
>>       See: "_What is an Exemplary Ontology_
>>       <
>> http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:WhatIsAnExemplaryOntology>"
>>       for ideas about this; edit them if you wish.
>>
>> Can you or any of your colleagues think of exemplary ontologies to add
>> to the catalog? Think first about the ontologies you have used that are
>> authored by others, rather than your own.
>>
>> *WHY: * /to make it easy for people to find good ontologies to draw
>> inspiration from and to emulate./
>>
>> If you don't have much time, I will make it easier by talking you
>> through it on the phone. I'm UscholdM on Skype.
>>
>> *HOW: *Quick Instructions:
>> 1. Visit *_Ontology Design Patterns Wiki_*
>> <http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/> (_
>> http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/_)
>> 2. Click the "*_How to register_*
>> <http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:Register>" link at lower
>> left of the page; follow instructions to get a login name and password.
>> ---Or paste: _http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:Register_ into
>> your browser
>> 3. See: "*_What is an Exemplary Ontology_*
>> <http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:WhatIsAnExemplaryOntology>"
>> link for some criteria
>> ---Or paste:
>> h_ttp://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:WhatIsAnExemplaryOntology_
>> <http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Odp:WhatIsAnExemplaryOntology>
>> into your browser
>> 4. Visit *Exemplary Ontology Catalogue*
>> <http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Ontology:Main> page to make sure
>> the ontology is not already there.
>> ---Or paste: _http://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Ontology:Main_ into
>> your browser
>> 5. Click the *Su/bmit a new Exemplary Ontology/* button.
>> 6. Fill out a form describing various aspects of the exemplary ontology.
>> Key fields are:
>> 1. *Name *of ontology
>> 2. *Description *(Short)
>> 3. *Purpose *of the ontology
>> 4. *Justification *(why you think this is an exemplary ontology)
>> 5. *URI *of where to find the ontology
>> 6. *References *One or more references to learn more.
>> Thanks very much,
>> Michael
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> Bernard Vatant
> Senior Consultant
> Vocabulary & Data Engineering
> Tel:       +33 (0) 971 488 459
> Mail:     bernard.vatant@mondeca.com
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