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Re: HL7 and patient records in RDF/OWL?

From: Eric Miller <em@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:15:32 -0500
Message-Id: <4621219C-028B-43F6-8839-4D4AE1626046@w3.org>
Cc: public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org
To: John Madden <john.madden@duke.edu>

On Feb 10, 2006, at 3:41 AM, John Madden wrote:

> Daniel,
> I spoke with Mark Musen about this project at the F2F, and we  
> (SNOMED) would be eager to work collaboratively with NCBO on this  
> as a demo. I'm coming out to the Protege short course next month  
> (funded by SNOMED) and I'll have some material for you by then.
> (a) I think is to a large extent a "just-do-it" question, and we  
> definitely want to "do it". The interesting part to me is the  
> follow-up project of showing how OWL fragments built separately in  
> this way can be related to a more global ontology that may not be  
> quite so rigorously formal; that's (b).
> For me, in many ways the hardest part is (c), a standard way of  
> encapsulating RDF-family markup in xml-schema dependent document  
> formats. (I know this takes us afield from "ontologies" per se.  
> Personally, I'd like to see GRDDL applied to these formats, but,  
> we've got to be realistic that clinical medical documents today are  
> almost never natively html, and GRDDL is/was rather html-focused.  
> Also, you might argue that these formats do not assume web  
> connectivity so it is insufficient to merely point to an extraction  
> transform somewhere out on the web, when that might not be  
> accessible; I'm not sure whether that really matters.)

To be clear, GRRDL is not specific to XHTML and can be used for  
translating XML instance data as well. One can use GRDDL for "schema  
annotation" and transform all of the instance data that conforms to a  
particular schema into RDF. I think the following provides some of  
the relevant bits that explain this

- http://www.w3.org/TeamSubmission/grddl/#ns-bind

The current GRDDL documents don't elaborate on this 'schema  
annotation' use case in as much detail as I think it deserves but I  
expect this issue will be addressed in future work. An exploration of  
this 'schema annotation' approach using GRDDL in a different context  
is here

- http://www.w3.org/2003/g/cc/demo

hmm... not sure this is enough to go on in and of itself :( but it  
may be useful.

> I've spoken with the OpenDocument group about an RDF embedding  
> standard and they're thinking about it but haven't come to any firm  
> proposal. I also asked Norm Walsh about it a few months ago and he  
> had it on his issue list for DocBook, but again I'm not yet aware  
> of a definitive solution. For HL7-CDA, things are hazy right now.
> Daniel, I'd be interested in talking over details with you when I'm  
> out in Stanford.

The real challenge is modeling the semantics of HL7 and creating the  
appropriate transformations. Please report back any discussions to  
this list as I (along with many others it seems :) am interested in  
this area.

eric miller                              http://www.w3.org/people/em/
semantic web activity lead               http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/
w3c world wide web consortium            http://www.w3.org/
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