Re: Historical events

I don't think we should be the arbiter of 'significance' as we are writing
the schema, not storing the data. Authors can apply the type as they see
fit and it is up to readers to reconcile the data and determine if the
event is significant for their purposes.

With that said, I am not opposed to more specific types like ArmedConflict
if that serves authors.

I am opposed to adding things like 'EventLongerThan1Year'. These are time
periods (or eras if we'd rather). We can add an 'approximateStartDate' and
'approximateEndDate' to allow for setting the length. Otherwise, the
lengths are arbitrary and serve no purpose to put the time period in
context.

- Vicki


On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 10:20 PM Anthony Moretti <anthony.moretti@gmail.com>
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> After looking at it more closely I think I agree with Martin, unless
> there's general agreement on the meaning of a type it probably shouldn't be
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> "Significance" and "importance" are relative and only mean something if
> there is agreement on several things: the group being compared, the
> attribute being compared, and some qualifying percentile, e.g. top 5% of
> mountains by height, top 10% of people by name recognition, top 1% of
> websites by views.
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> Particularly about events though, maybe duration is an interesting
> attribute, quite long events becoming named periods of history. With the
> following types as a partial example, you could look for archaeological
> events longer than a certain duration, and the results might possibly be
> common named periods of archaeology.
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> *Event    AnthropologicalEvent    ArchaeologicalEvent    ArmedConflict
>   CosmologicalEvent    GeologicalEvent    PoliticalEvent    ReligiousEvent
>   EventLongerThan1Year        EventLongerThan10Years
>   EventLongerThan100Years                EventLongerThan1000Years
>           EventLongerThan10000Years
>   EventLongerThan100000Years
>   EventLongerThan1000000Years
>   EventLongerThan10000000Years
>   EventLongerThan100000000Years
>   EventLongerThan1000000000Years
>   EventLongerThan10000000000Years*
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> Could this be a solution to classifying and finding "historically
> significant" events?
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> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 4:22 PM <Simon.Cox@csiro.au> wrote:
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>> Does it have a name? If so, it is ‘significant’. That’s about it really.
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>> *From:* Thad Guidry [mailto:thadguidry@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 June, 2018 03:42
>> *To:* Muri, Allison <allison.muri@usask.ca>
>> *Cc:* Richard Wallis <richard.wallis@dataliberate.com>; Anthony Moretti <
>> anthony.moretti@gmail.com>; Cox, Simon (L&W, Clayton) <Simon.Cox@csiro.au>;
>> schema.org Mailing List <public-schemaorg@w3.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: Historical events
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>> Does it help to think this way ?
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>> *A Significant* - some Thing of importance to someone or some group.
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>> A Significant Other - some Person of importance to another Person.
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>> Historical*Significant* - some Thing that has *historical* importance to
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>> -Thad
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Received on Tuesday, 19 June 2018 14:08:46 UTC