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Re: [Admin] Agenda for RIF telecon March 16

From: Polleres, Axel <axel.polleres@deri.org>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 07:40:12 -0000
Message-ID: <316ADBDBFE4F4D4AA4FEEF7496ECAEF9035DF618@EVS1.ac.nuigalway.ie>
To: <cawelty@gmail.com>
Cc: <csma@fr.ibm.com>, <sandro@w3.org>, <public-rif-wg@w3.org>
Fair enough, as long as we can use the rif: namespace for imports, that's already something.

Axel

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From: Chris Welty 
To: Polleres, Axel 
Cc: ; ; 
Sent: Tue Mar 16 03:47:17 2010
Subject: Re: [Admin] Agenda for RIF telecon March 16 



Axel -

Nothing is perfect, look at RDF for @$&&&@$(( sake, yet it us seeing real uptake.  We have been 4+ years at RIF. IT IS DONE.  

-Chris (sent from my iPhone)

On Mar 15, 2010, at 7:14 PM, "Polleres, Axel" <axel.polleres@deri.org> wrote:



	Sorry, I can't dial in tomorrow, as I am on a conference, I will try to join on irc, but can't guarantee connectivity.
	
	Sandro, do you think you can summarise the issue?
	
	My personal worry here remains that rif:imports in a separate spec has some risk of later incompatibilities, see item 2) in 
	
	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2010Mar/0032.html

	
	If there are any ideas how this incompatibility could be avoided without having to touch the current spec, I'd appreciate it!
	
	Best,
	Axel

	

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	To: public-rif-wg@w3.org 
	Sent: Mon Mar 15 17:59:59 2010
	Subject: [Admin] Agenda for RIF telecon March 16 
	

	


	AGENDA Teleconference 
	W3C Rules Interchange Format (RIF) Working Group 
	16 March 2010 
	
	1600 UTC, 0800 (West US) 1100 (East US) 1500 (London) 1600 (Paris) 
	Duration: *90 min* 
	
	*ATTENTION*: the telecon is one hour earlier than usual in Europe (due to North America having moved to daylight saving time already) 
	
	Scribe: Mike Dean (alternate: Gary Hallmark) 
	
	*Agenda summary* 
	1. Admin (5 mn) 
	2. Liaison (5 mn) 
	3. Action review [2] [3] (5 mn) 
	4. Public comments [4] (5 mn) 
	5. SPARQL use of RIF namespace [5] (15 mn) 
	6. Status wrt CR exit criteria [6] (15 mn)
	7. Features at risk [7] (15 mn) 
	*PROPOSED:* keep the strictness requirement (feature at risk) reworded as "a conformant implementation must reject a RIF document that contains features that it does not support".
	8. CR2PR (10 mn) 
	*PROPOSED (contingent on previous two items)*: Move CR specs to PR
	9. RIF primer (10 mn) 
	10. Test cases [8]
	*PROPOSED:* Approve test cases per review during telecon 
	11. AOB (next meeting) 
	
	
	[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2010Mar/att-0038/09-rif-minutes.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2010Mar/att-0038/09-rif-minutes.html> 
	[2] http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/actions/open <http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/actions/open>  
	[3] http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/actions/pendingreview <http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/actions/pendingreview>  
	[4] http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/Public_Comments <http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/Public_Comments>  
	[5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2010Mar/0035.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2010Mar/0035.html>  
	[6] http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/Exit_Criteria <http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/Exit_Criteria>  
	[7] http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/Features_At_Risk <http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/Features_At_Risk>  
	[8] http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/Category:Test_Case <http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/Category:Test_Case>  
	
	------------------- 
	
	*Detailed agenda* 
	
	Bridges: +1.617.761.6200 (US), +33 4 89 06 34 99 (F) or +44.117.370.6152 
	(GB) 
	Conference code: 74394# ('RIFWG') 
	IRC Chat: irc:irc.w3.org (port 6665), #rif 
	Web-based IRC (member-only): [http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc <http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc> ] 
	
	*PLEASE POST REGRETS* TO [http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/TeleconRegrets <http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/TeleconRegrets>  
	] 
	
	Chair: Christian de Sainte Marie
	Scribe: Mike Dean (alternate: Gary Hallmark) 
	
	
	See Scribes Ring [http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/ScribeRing <http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/ScribeRing> ] 
	
	Please note that RIF WG telecons are for attendance only by Working 
	Group Participants and guests invited by the chairs. 
	
	1. ADMIN (5 min) 
	
	- Roll call (please read before telecon the following) 
	RIF Regrets Policy: 
	[http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/RegretsPolicy <http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/RegretsPolicy> ] 
	Using Zakim: 
	[http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/UsingZakim <http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/UsingZakim> ] 
	Telecon Etiquette: 
	[http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/TeleconEtiquette <http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/TeleconEtiquette> ] 
	Action/Issues Tracker: 
	[http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/ <http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/> ] 
	
	- Agenda amendments 
	
	PROPOSED: accept minutes of telecon March 9 [1] 
	
	*Summer time*: North America moved to summer time on March 14, Europe on March 28 
	                              => Telecon 23 will, again, be one hour early in Europe!
	
	2. Liaison (5 min) 
	
	- Review active liaisons: 
	PRR (OMG) - Paul Vincent 
	OWL (W3C) - Sandro Hawke 
	HCLS (W3C IG) - Adrian Paschke 
	SPARQL (W3C) - Axel Polleres 
	
	3. Action review (5 mn) 
	
	- Review actions due [2] and pending review [3] 
	
	4. Public comments [4] (5 mn) 
	
	- Review new public comments [4] 
	
	5. SPARQL use of RIF namespace [5] (15 mn) 
	
	6. Status wrt CR exit criteria [6] (15 mn)
	
	7. Features at risk (15 mn) 
	
	- Discuss and decide what to do with the remaining "at risk" feature [7] 
	
	*PROPOSED:* keep the strictness requirement (feature at risk) reworded as "a conformant implementation must reject a RIF document that contains features that it does not support".
	
	8. CR2PR (10 mn) 
	
	- If consensus that CR exit criteria are met and if fate of remaining at risk feature resolved, discuss requesting that all the CR specs be moved to PR 
	
	*PROPOSED (contingent on previous two items)*: Move CR specs to PR
	
	9. RIF primer (10 mn) 
	
	- Discussion on publishing a RIF primer document. 
	 * Among other questions: who will write it? Can this be derived from UCR? 
	
	10. Test cases
	
	- Review and approve test cases [8] 
	
	*PROPOSED:* Approve test cases per review during telecon 
	
	11. AOB (next meeting) 
	
	- Next telecon: 23 March 2010 *1500 UTC*, 0800 (West US) 1100 (East US) *1500 (London) 1600 (Paris)* 
	----------------------------------- 
	
	Christian 
	
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