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Re: [ALL] 48 Hours to Prioritize Graph Use Cases

From: Steve Harris <steve.harris@garlik.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 11:09:46 +0100
Cc: public-rdf-wg@w3.org
Message-Id: <2E91AD7B-7946-46B8-95EA-F8BB9345F926@garlik.com>
To: Andy Seaborne <andy.seaborne@epimorphics.com>
On 2011-10-06, at 10:47, Andy Seaborne wrote:
> 
> On 06/10/11 10:29, Steve Harris wrote:
>> On 2011-10-06, at 08:35, Andy Seaborne wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 05/10/11 23:16, Ian Davis wrote:
>>>> I think 4.2 web crawling (or aggregation in general) is very
>>>> important
>>>> 
>>>> Also I don't see it on the existing list but being able to edit
>>>> datasets at the granularity of the graph rather than the triple
>>>> is very important. i.e. It is very convenient to be able to
>>>> replace all the triples in one named graph with a new set when
>>>> doing things like web crawling.
>>> 
>>> Agreed.
>>> 
>>> Some words added (section 1.7, to keep the numbering stable); Ian,
>>> do feel free to refine them.
>>> 
>>> This relates to 1.5 "Exchanging the contents of RDF stores".
>> 
>> Agreed, on all counts.
>> 
>> However I'd like it to be expanded in scope slightly to also cover
>> information derived from non-RDF pages which are being crawled (pure
>> self-interest, as this is where we get most of our data). It's
>> slightly different from a modelling point of view, as foo.html
>> doesn't typically contain any actual triples, just information which
>> cause triples to be asserted.
> 
> It's a wiki ... :-)

Indeed, but it felt a little underhand to change the focus of a use-case after people had voted for it!

If neither you or Ian feel it's an issue, I'll add a note to it.

- Steve

>> That, in combination with “1.3 Graph Changes Over Time”, and “1.5
>> Exchanging the contents of RDF stores” captures our most challenging
>> data representation challenges.
>> 
>> - Steve
>> 
>> 
>>>> On 5 Oct 2011, at 20:49, Andy
>>>> Seaborne<andy.seaborne@epimorphics.com>   wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I think that:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1.3 Graph Changes Over Time
>>>>> 
>>>>> is also important.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andy
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 05/10/11 19:56, David Wood wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We would like to prioritize the use cases for named graphs
>>>>>> [1] before FTF2.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> At today's telecon, the following use cases were deemed
>>>>>> important to attendees: - 1.1 Slicing datasets according to
>>>>>> multiple dimensions - 1.5 Exchanging the contents of RDF
>>>>>> stores - 1.6 Versioning in SDMX and DDI - 5.2 OWL's “Ontology
>>>>>> Documents” - 6.2 Reasoning over annotations
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Further, it was proposed to drop the following use case: -
>>>>>> 4.8 Provenance Information and Data Retention ...and add
>>>>>> Sandro's provenance use case [2] in place of several existing
>>>>>> provenance use cases (to be determined).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please note that the numbers are for reference only until the
>>>>>> page is modified.  The numbers *will* change, no later than
>>>>>> Friday.  The numbers in this message are from revision 1473
>>>>>> [3].
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you object to these changes or have others to suggest,
>>>>>> please respond to this message and/or update the wiki.
>>>>>> Thanks.  I will update the wiki no later than this weekend
>>>>>> prior to the ftf.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards, Dave
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/TF-Graphs-UC [2]
>>>>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-prov/2011Sep/0003.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
> [3] http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/index.php?title=TF-Graphs-UC&oldid73
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

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