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Re: Real URLs for real things

From: Laurian Gridinoc <laurian@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 17:57:00 +0100
Message-ID: <9782e3350805150957i2036f2ebmd516c47cd40ce7f9@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Steven Pemberton" <steven.pemberton@cwi.nl>
Cc: public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org

2008/5/15 Steven Pemberton <steven.pemberton@cwi.nl>:
> [...] Another problem that was constantly recurring, he said, was due to the
> confusion between a page, and the thing it represented.
> And that set me thinking. Saying stuff about something that doesn't have a
> URL is hard, hard in RDFa, hard in RDF, and usually needs blanknodes, which
> our grandmothers are never going to understand.
> So, does anyone feel that they have enough energy for us to propose a new
> type of URL, the primary topic of:
>        pto:http://www.w3.org/ is the W3C
>        pto:http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee is Tim BL
>        pto:mailto:timbl@w3.org is also Tim BL
>        pto:http://rdfa.info/ is RDFa
> and so on. You would never be expected to dereference such a URL, and you
> can see that you are talking about a meta subject by inspection, and you can
> automatically derive:
>        <pto:http://www.w3.org/> foaf:isPrimaryTopicOf <http:www.w3.org/>
> It seems to me that it would be far easier to use than all that "#me" stuff
> and all those 303 replies you have to organise to do it right (or is it
> 302?).

Why not use XRI's cross-context identification [1], to point to
http://www.w3.org/ in a context of in which means
foaf:isPrimaryTopicOf, something roughly like


[1] http://dev.inames.net/wiki/Why_XRI#.231:_Cross-Context_Identification

I know how wrong this could be, but anyway ...

Laurian Gridinoc, purl.org/net/laur
Received on Thursday, 15 May 2008 16:57:39 UTC

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