W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org > January 2008

Re: Section 1 of the New RDFa Syntax Draft ready for reviews

From: Shane McCarron <shane@aptest.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:22:36 -0600
Message-ID: <479E0F5C.2070502@aptest.com>
To: "Hausenblas, Michael" <michael.hausenblas@joanneum.at>
CC: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>, Michael Bolger <michael@michaelbolger.net>, RDFa <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>, peter.krantz@gmail.com

I would be more than happy to assist in such an effort.  However, I 
personally think we should produce a rec-track profile for RDFa in HTML4 
straight away.  The current rdfa-syntax document's structure is designed 
with creating such profiles in mind.  The ONLY difference between RDFa 
in HTML4 and XHTML+RDFa is how prefixes are declared IMHO.  If we could 
agree on a mechanism for that I think we would be ~done.

Hausenblas, Michael wrote:
> Ivan, Michael,
>
> I support Ivan's proposal of a separate WG Note.
> If and when we start this activity I volunteer for
> taking lead on it ;)
>
> Cheers,
> 	Michael
>
> BTW, I cc'd Peter, as he showed some interest regarding 
> HTML5 and RDFa a while ago (not sure if you are subscribed
> to the RDFa mailing list, Peter?).
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>  Michael Hausenblas, MSc.
>  Institute of Information Systems & Information Management
>  JOANNEUM RESEARCH Forschungsgesellschaft mbH
>   
>  http://www.joanneum.at/iis/
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>  
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf-request@w3.org 
>> [mailto:public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Ivan Herman
>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 10:18 AM
>> To: Michael Bolger
>> Cc: RDFa
>> Subject: Re: Section 1 of the New RDFa Syntax Draft ready for reviews
>>
>> Sigh...:-(
>>
>> As an alternative...
>>
>> This document, as a Rec, defines an XHTML1 variant, ie, is based on 
>> XHTML1. I am not sure it would be appropriate to discuss non XHTML1 
>> issues *within the document* (let alone the fact that this would slow 
>> down the progress of the document on Rec path).
>>
>> What about planning for a separate WG Note instead that would give 
>> information on how these attributes can be used in a 
>> non-XHTML1 setting. 
>> Such an informative note would be of a great value... (I know that we 
>> were playing of defining the attributes without any reference to any 
>> host language; that note would be somewhere between the two).
>>
>> I guess the issue about HTML5 is the question of extensibility, ie, of 
>> validation. (And I do not think there is a clear view on that in the 
>> HTML group either.) *If* this issue is put aside, the RDFa 
>> specification 
>> could be used with (well, invalid) HTML5 documents when using HTML5's 
>> XML serialization. There is nothing, as far as I can see, in 
>> the process 
>> description of the RDFa attributes that would be dependent on a 
>> particular HTML in XML version, it just describes things in terms of a 
>> DOM tree operation. I am not sure about the non-XML HTML5, simply 
>> because I lack the necessary knowledge on how this is handled with no 
>> DOM tree around...
>>
>> Just my 2 cents...
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ivan
>>
>> Michael Bolger wrote:
>>     
>>> I suggest a proactive approach toward a troubling
>>> development concerning IE8 [1] [2], what effect
>>> will it be if they fail to support XHTML?  Also with
>>> HTML5 <!DOCTYPE html> [3]   + profile issues.
>>>
>>> In Section 1 please include a brief , highly informative
>>> (relationship) projection about HTML5, I want to
>>> see the plan ahead, will all the work to create
>>> XHTML+RDFa documents now; survive (etc.).
>>> They might not make it through section 2.:)
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] 
>>>
>>>       
>> http://realtech.burningbird.net/standards/bobbing-heads-and-the
>> -ie8-meta-tag/ 
>>     
>>> [2] http://www.molly.com/2008/01/24/me-ie8-and-microsoft-versioning/
>>> [3] http://ejohn.org/blog/html5-doctype/
>>> [4] http://ejohn.org/blog/html5-shiv/
>>> -interesting "once you create a new DOM element"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank You
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>       
>> -- 
>>
>> Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead
>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
>> PGP Key: http://www.ivan-herman.net/pgpkey.html
>> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf
>>
>>     
>
>   

-- 
Shane P. McCarron                          Phone: +1 763 786-8160 x120
Managing Director                            Fax: +1 763 786-8180
ApTest Minnesota                            Inet: shane@aptest.com
Received on Monday, 28 January 2008 17:23:27 GMT

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.2.0+W3C-0.50 : Monday, 28 January 2008 17:23:29 GMT