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Re: Understanding 'chaining'

From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:01:15 +0100
Message-ID: <474D2E5B.1000607@w3.org>
To: Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@x-port.net>
Cc: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, RDFa <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>


Mark Birbeck wrote:
> Hi Manu,
> 
> When I get the chance I will reply to Ivan's post, but in the
> meantime, could I just respond to this:
> 
>> This approach [Ivan's creation of two new attributes] certainly is a
>> welcome addition to resolving this deadlock... as it feels that we
>> aren't really moving forward with the current proposals.
> 
> Why do you say that? Up until the recent posts, I had thought things
> were going pretty well:
> 
>  * myself and Ben had reduced our 'differences' very precisely to the
> behaviour of
>    one attribute in one position;
> 

Mark, I may have misunderstood. My understanding from Ben's mail is that
there is a difference that goes beyond the behaviour of @instanceof. In
Ben's mail:

http://www.w3.org/mid/4744C19F.70401@adida.net

he says:

[[[
1) Mark's proposal is a *significant* change from what we've been
discussing over the last few weeks. A lot of simple cases work the same
way, but a number of more complex cases change fairly radically.
]]]

and this is _regardless_ of the @instanceof behaviour. And your 'hanging
@rel' explanation did underline that there _is_ a difference. Did I get
it wrong?

Ivan


>  * I'd explained how the way that Ben was approaching things was incredibly
>    close to how they were a while ago, and that a small tweak to
> maintain symmetry
>    in the behaviour of @rel/@rev would give us every use-case we wanted;
> 
>  * Ben replied that he thought we might be close to a resolution, but asked for
>    some clarification on some edge-cases;
> 
>  * I clarified those, and was waiting for Ben's reply.
> 
> That doesn't sound like deadlock to me. Of course it might be, but I
> think we should give Ben a bit of space to reply before throwing our
> hands up, and declaring game over.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mark
> 

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Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead
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