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Re: Action item to outline language-dependent features

From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:10:46 +0200
Message-ID: <46CC0BA6.50303@w3.org>
To: Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@formsPlayer.com>
CC: Karl Dubost <karl@w3.org>, W3C RDFa task force <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>
Mark,

I guess Karl is the person to answer that, but I presume the problem is
the reaction of some of the HTML community against XML.:-(

Ivan

Mark Birbeck wrote:
> Hi Ivan,
> 
> +1 on the sad face.
> 
> In my opinion [1] it's yet another example of the 'kitchen-sink'
> approach to standards. What's wrong with using a 'global' attribute
> across all W3C specifications, regardless of what it's name is? The
> use of @xml:lang in HTML is certainly not a problem--it's just an
> attribute name, and no namespace is even declared so it doesn't even
> have to be processed in an 'XML-way'. (I.e., 'xml' is a reserved
> prefix that doesn't need @xmlns:xml to be present.)
> 
> Some kind of high-level approach to W3C standards is way overdue, but
> instead it seems to be deemed more important to worry about how
> browsers are going to support SQL [2].
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mark
> 
> [1] http://internet-apps.blogspot.com/2007/08/fixing-web-part-1.html
> [2] http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#executing
> 
> On 22/08/07, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:
>> This is just wonderful. :-(
>>
>> Ivan
>>
>> Karl Dubost wrote:
>>>
>>> Ivan Herman (21 août 2007 - 23:23) :
>>>> B.t.w., I am a little bit puzzled by the properties below. If by XHTML
>>>> you mean XHTML1.1, then my understanding was that xml:base is not used
>>>> but @lang is also accepted... But these are details...
>>> XHTML 1.1 => application/xhtml+xml
>>>
>>>     "On every element, the lang attribute
>>>     has been removed in favor of the
>>>     xml:lang attribute (as defined in
>>>     [XHTMLMOD])."
>>>     http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/changes.html#a_changes
>>>
>>> html5/xml => application/xhtml+xml
>>>
>>>     "The xml:lang attribute may only be
>>>     used on elements of XML documents.
>>>     Authors must not use the xml:lang
>>>     attribute in HTML documents. "
>>>     http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/#the-lang
>>>
>>>
>> --
>>
>> Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead
>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
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>>
>>
>>
> 
> 

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