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Re: Action item to outline language-dependent features

From: Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@formsPlayer.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:25:10 +0100
Message-ID: <a707f8300708220225r6183076btd8ae0ee4b41f21e7@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Ivan Herman" <ivan@w3.org>
Cc: "Karl Dubost" <karl@w3.org>, "W3C RDFa task force" <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>

Hi Ivan,

+1 on the sad face.

In my opinion [1] it's yet another example of the 'kitchen-sink'
approach to standards. What's wrong with using a 'global' attribute
across all W3C specifications, regardless of what it's name is? The
use of @xml:lang in HTML is certainly not a problem--it's just an
attribute name, and no namespace is even declared so it doesn't even
have to be processed in an 'XML-way'. (I.e., 'xml' is a reserved
prefix that doesn't need @xmlns:xml to be present.)

Some kind of high-level approach to W3C standards is way overdue, but
instead it seems to be deemed more important to worry about how
browsers are going to support SQL [2].

Regards,

Mark

[1] http://internet-apps.blogspot.com/2007/08/fixing-web-part-1.html
[2] http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#executing

On 22/08/07, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:
> This is just wonderful. :-(
>
> Ivan
>
> Karl Dubost wrote:
> >
> >
> > Ivan Herman (21 août 2007 - 23:23) :
> >> B.t.w., I am a little bit puzzled by the properties below. If by XHTML
> >> you mean XHTML1.1, then my understanding was that xml:base is not used
> >> but @lang is also accepted... But these are details...
> >
> > XHTML 1.1 => application/xhtml+xml
> >
> >     "On every element, the lang attribute
> >     has been removed in favor of the
> >     xml:lang attribute (as defined in
> >     [XHTMLMOD])."
> >     http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/changes.html#a_changes
> >
> > html5/xml => application/xhtml+xml
> >
> >     "The xml:lang attribute may only be
> >     used on elements of XML documents.
> >     Authors must not use the xml:lang
> >     attribute in HTML documents. "
> >     http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/#the-lang
> >
> >
>
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>
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>


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