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RDF DAWG Weekly

22 May 2007

Agenda

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Attendees

Present
AndyS, ericP, SimonR, LeeF
Regrets
SteveH, EliasT, Chimezie, Jeen
Chair
LeeF
Scribe
AndyS

Contents


 

convene

<LeeF> may 1 minutes

<LeeF> may 8 minutes

<LeeF> may 15 minutes

<LeeF> may 15 minutes for real

(includes CR request for QL)

APPROVED

action items

<scribe> ACTION: ericP to poke IETF folks about registering SPARQL media types (esp. application/sparql-query) [CONTINUED] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-dawg-minutes.html#action01]

<scribe> ACTION: EricP to run the yacker tool over and annotate the existing tests [CONTINUED] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-dawg-minutes.html#action02]

<scribe> ACTION: ericP to get in touch with SteveH re: setting up an environment to generate an Overview page for tests in data-r2 a la http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/ [CONTINUED] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-dawg-minutes.html#action03]

<scribe> ACTION: ericP, jeen, or LeeF to update http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/README with info on possible results format and on changes to manifest and test vocabularies [CONTINUED] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-dawg-minutes.html#action04]

<scribe> ACTION: ericP to write a test showing that langMatches doens't do extended matching [CONTINUED] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-dawg-minutes.html#action05]

<scribe> ACTION: LeeF to add Chimezie's leading digit test to the test suite [CONTINUED] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-dawg-minutes.html#action06]

<scribe> ACTION: LeeF to remember that the wee, lost filter tests should be put http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-dawg-minutes.html#action05 [CONTINUED] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-dawg-minutes.html#action07]

<scribe> ACTION: LeeF to mark the 4 regex tests approved [CONTINUED] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-dawg-minutes.html#action08]

CR publication status

LeeF: CR Publication status: RIF to review for compatibility between RIF extensions and SPARQL
... by mid July.
... asked to look at OPTIONAL and BOUND()

LeeF: CG requests to check with PFPS on comment status
... (the PFPS request is actually from W3C team, fwiw)

EricP: Contacted Peter and helping the timescale for a week or so.
... -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2007May/0015.html
... one tiny other change for codepoint sorting.
... (not in that email)

LeeF: Please hold off until CR done because this is the bytes to CR
... then WG can agree changes in normal tracking process
... not waiting for CR on RIF - RIF will review in CR
... only pending item is PFPS email

AndyS: How long is CR?

LeeF: Guaranteed time is end May (??) to end July but also ...
... need to fulfil the other exit criteria
... PR beginning of August earliest

result format docs publication status

EricP: (JSON republish) Ready to go except for the date

LeeF: Make it so

implementation report

EricP: IETF process gets started when we are in CR

LeeF: Grammar => feature list. Is this then manually tidied?

EricP: Feature set is handwritten.

<ericP> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/facets

<ericP> comes from http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/facets.ttl

AndyS: Need also some tests of multiple features (e.g. nested patterns)

LeeF: Excellent starting point, maybe close to the end point
... it needs a second pair of eyes

EricP: Red - incomplete
... need to switch to XPath

<scribe> ACTION: AndyS+EricP: Run through an example in yacker [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-dawg-minutes.html#action09]

LeeF: Once we have a list of feature, can we classify the existing tests by features automatically?

EricP: Yes

<LeeF> something that needs to be done: summarize coverage of test suite vis a vis facets

<LeeF> (what facets are not covered, which tests might be redundant)

LeeF: What technologies needed?

EricP: perl, SPARQL parser from yacker, shell script to find manifest, xslt engine

<ericP> example spopo query: http://w3.org/brief/NDQ=

LeeF: Once we have this, need to capture implementations.
... using EARL for implementation results was the consensus.
... need to publish examples/HowTo doc
... do we require EARL formatted results?
... what's the W3C practice here?

EricP: example ...

<ericP> example EARL format: http://www.w3.org/mid/20061002130321.GB5350@w3.org

<SimonR> If people give us EARL, their gratification will be more instantaneous than if we have put in the effort to do the translation for them. :)

EricP: web form?

<SimonR> I'm happy to do some of the translation work if we end up getting non-EARL.

LeeF: "Encourage" EARL

EricP: Require until we have to convert

<LeeF> example earl results -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2006OctDec/att-0009/rdfSemantics-earl.ttl

test suite

LeeF:Protocol testing: Elias ready and willing

LeeF: for QL, need to move stuff over, please help move tests over as you have time
... Jeen back next week
... manifests need fix up
... but that's all
... getting coverage should be OK
... work is to prove this

ADJOURNED

<SimonR> Adjourn at 15:15Z

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: AndyS+EricP: Run through an example in yacker [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-dawg-minutes.html#action09]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: ericP to get in touch with SteveH re: setting up an environment to generate an Overview page for tests in data-r2 a la http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-dawg-minutes.html#action03]
[PENDING] ACTION: ericP to poke IETF folks about registering SPARQL media types (esp. application/sparql-query) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-dawg-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: EricP to run the yacker tool over and annotate the existing tests [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-dawg-minutes.html#action02]
[PENDING] ACTION: ericP to write a test showing that langMatches doens't do extended matching [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-dawg-minutes.html#action05]
[PENDING] ACTION: ericP, jeen, or LeeF to update http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/README with info on possible results format and on changes to manifest and test vocabularies [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-dawg-minutes.html#action04]
[PENDING] ACTION: LeeF to add Chimezie's leading digit test to the test suite [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-dawg-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION: LeeF to mark the 4 regex tests approved [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-dawg-minutes.html#action08]
[PENDING] ACTION: LeeF to remember that the wee, lost filter tests should be put http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-dawg-minutes.html#action05 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/22-dawg-minutes.html#action07]
 
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