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Minutes of the 2005-05-17 RDF DAWG teleconference for review

From: Janne Saarela <janne.saarela@profium.com>
Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 22:33:03 +0300
Message-ID: <428CE9EF.4020200@profium.com>
To: public-rdf-dawg@w3.org

RDF Data Access Working Group
Tuesday 2005-05-17 14:30-16:30 UTC
log: http://www.w3.org/2005/05/17-dawg-irc.html

chair: DanC
scribe: JanneS

1. Convene, take roll, review agenda

     Dan Connolly
     Kendall Clark
     Andy Seaborne
     Hiroyuki Sato
     Janne Saarela
     Jos De Roo
     Pat Hayes
     Yoshio Fukushige
     Jay Banerjee
     Pat Hayes

Regrets: EricP, HowardK, Jeen

Approved minutes from May 3
(there was no meeting on May 10)

Proposed agenda for this meeting:

Continued the following action items without discussion:

ACTION: EricP to pair with SteveH on making the HTML test results page
ACTION: DaveB to to propose source test to approve
ACTION: DanC to follow up re optional test based on op:dateTime triple
ACTION: SteveH to prepare test cases for publication as WG Note (no
ACTION: AndyS to add the above graph test cases (analagous to
valueTesting test cases) (don't expect quick delivery)

2. Next meeting, schedule to LC

There will be meeting next week on May 24th, LC schedule was discussed, 
see plan in

3. xmlAbstractSyntax

ACTION: KendallC to work out remaining details in sparqlx.{rnc,xsd,rng}:
expression syntax, order-by stuff (xmlAbstractSyntax)

turned into a proposal to postpone in


PROPOSED: to postpone xmlAbstractSyntax on the grounds that it seems 
more straightforward to do in a later version

4. issue wsdlAbstractProtocol

ACTION: DanC to generate SELECT, CONSTRUCT, ASK protocol traces
some HTTP traces for SPARQL Dan Connolly (Friday, 6 May)

ACTION: KendallC to ask WSD WG for clarification about HTTP binding of
WSDL2, esp lists of URIs

ACTION DanC: try splitting SparqlQuery interface into SparqlGraph 

5. issue fromUnionQuery

ACTION: KendallC to draft protocol section on specifying datasets
(fromUnionQuery) including WSDL types and HTTP examples

DONE in:
       $Revision: 1.36 $ of $Date: 2005/05/14 18:08:45 $

ACTION: EricP to try out the "2 list of URIs" datasets design from

ACTION KendallC: reword "the protocol must be preferred by a SPARQL 
query service", perhaps w.r.t. the WSDL interface

6. issue serviceDescriptions

ACTION: Yoshio to edit saddle descriptions provided by KendallC
CONTINUED if interest to this remains, obsoleted by the following WG ruling:

PROPOSED: whereas the serviceDescription designs aren't maturing in the 
timescale of the current schedule, and implementation experience is 
somewhat thin, to postpone serviceDescriptions

7. publishing results format, protocol

ACTION EricP: to publish http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rf1/ 1.25
+ editorial notes from DaveB + check from Kendall
CONTINUED (DanC might do this for Eric)

8. SPARQL QL edits

ACTION: AndyS to define a term for abstract form of SPARQL query

note discussion of "SPARQL Query" vs "SPARQL Query string"

ACTION: PatH to internal review of 
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/ esp 
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/#defn_SPARQLquery , given XSLT 
magic from AndyS

9. issue: sort

PROPOSED: that http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/ 1.328 and
address the sort issue

Abstaining: KC, PatH, JosD while others seconded

ACTION AndyS: get tests/data/sort/query-sort-1.rq marked approved

10. issue: valueTesting

ACTION: DanC to send comment on non-use of
<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-datatypes> to schema comments list

ACTION: EricP to propose a test re "x"^^mytype != "y"^^mytpe

ACTION: DaveB to work with EricP to clarify valueTesting proposal

ACTION DanC: noodle on uri() and str() issue from email

11. Extra issue: potentially reopen use/mention issue due to a comment in


ACTION: DanC to rethink the use/mention issue w.r.t Tim's email

Nezt meeting: May 24th, Chair: DanC, Scribe: AndyS

Janne Saarela <janne.saarela at profium.com>
Profium, Lars Sonckin kaari 12, 02600 Espoo, Finland
Internet: http://www.profium.com
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