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Re: Question about a sentence in RDF 1.1 Primer

From: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2014 14:41:44 -0400
Message-ID: <531CB5E8.60702@w3.org>
To: Gregg Kellogg <gregg@greggkellogg.net>, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
CC: Shuji Kamitsuna <ax2s-kmtn@asahi-net.or.jp>, "public-rdf-comments@w3.org" <public-rdf-comments@w3.org>
On 03/09/2014 12:37 PM, Gregg Kellogg wrote:
> On Mar 9, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:
>> Dear Kamitsuna-san,
>>
>> this is an English idiomatic expression that, afaik, is perfectly fine (I am not native English either, but I do believe it is fine). A more verbose version would be something like:
>>
>> "Subsequently we discuss TriG, which is an extension of Turtle, and N-Quads, which is an extensions of N-Triples, to encode multiple graphs."
> As a native speaker, I do fine the original text awkward.

Huh.   As another native speaker, I'd say the original is completely 
nonsense.  I had no idea what it meant.

>   I'd suggest of the following:
>
> "Subsequently we discuss TriG and N-Quads, which are extensions of Turtle and N-Triples, respectively, to encode multiple graphs."

Ah, that makes perfect sense, and I guess that's what the original was 
supposed to say.


> "Subsequently we discuss TriG and N-Quads, which are extensions respectively of Turtle and N-Triples to encode multiple graphs."

Yes, that also makes sense.

Ivan's phrasing also kind of makes sense, but it's ambiguous about 
whether TriG is about multiple graphs.


       -- Sandro
> I'm not thrilled with either, however.
>
> Gregg
>
>> Sincerely
>>
>> Ivan
>>
>>> On 09 Mar 2014, at 14:48 , Shuji Kamitsuna <ax2s-kmtn@asahi-net.or.jp> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> This is Shuji Kamitsuna@Japan.
>>>
>>> I'm translating "RDF 1.1 Primer" into Japanese.
>>> I encountered a sentence that I cannot understand.
>>>
>>> It is on the section 5.1 "Turtle family of RDF languages", which says
>>> "Subsequently we discuss TriG and N-Quads, which are extensions of
>>> Turtle respectively N-Triples to encode multiple graphs."
>>>
>>> What does it stand for? /OR/ Is there any error in the description?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> -- 
>>> *******************
>>> KAMITSUNA, Shuji.
>>>
>>> ax2s-kmtn@asahi-net.or.jp
>>> http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~ax2s-kmtn/
>>
>> ----
>> Ivan Herman, W3C
>> Digital Publishing Activity Lead
>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
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>> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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