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Re: PROV-ISSUE-29 (mutual-iVP-of): can two bobs be mutually "IVP of" each other [Conceptual Model]

From: Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu>
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 08:38:46 -0400
Cc: Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk>, Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>, James Cheney <jcheney@inf.ed.ac.uk>, "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
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To: Tom De Nies <tom.denies@ugent.be>

On Apr 2, 2012, at 4:53 AM, Tom De Nies wrote:

> +1
> 
> I had trouble understanding the reasoning of this example as well..
> In our data model, the email would rather be a collection, and the signature an element of it, rather than a specialization of it.
> A specialization of "this email" would be, for example. the "printed version on my desk", which is a specialization of "my thoughts on this email thread".
> 

+1 (your phrasing is exactly what FRBR addresses; we're borrowing their notions to create a simpler form with atlOf and specOf)


> Intuitively, I am having trouble coming up with a counterexample of the transitivity of our specialization.

Me too.

-Tim


> 
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> Tom
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> 2012/4/2 Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
> 
> is this example really reflecting specialisation? The signature is contained in the email message. Is it a specialisation of it?
> 
> On 2 Apr 2012, at 00:11, "Stian Soiland-Reyes" <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> > My signature in the end of this email is a specialization of this
> > email message, which is a specialization of my thoughts on this email
> > thread. However the signature is not a specialization of those
> > thoughts.
> 
> 
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