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Re: PROV-ISSUE-94 (pe-attributes): are process executions characterized in the same way as entities? [Conceptual Model]

From: Khalid Belhajjame <Khalid.Belhajjame@cs.man.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 15:50:18 +0100
Message-ID: <4E7210AA.6040804@cs.man.ac.uk>
To: Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk>
CC: Simon Miles <simon.miles@kcl.ac.uk>, Provenance Working Group WG <public-prov-wg@w3.org>

Stian,

What do you mean by complementOf between process execution?
  Was this defined somewhere?

Thanks, khalid


On 15/09/2011 15:26, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:21, Simon Miles<simon.miles@kcl.ac.uk>  wrote:
>
>> Is there similar need for process executions to have characterising
>> attributes, or is it just making the standard more complex?
> I had a thought this morning that process executions as entities can
> be useful to cover the idea of nested process executions as well. So
> for instance in my workflow example there is a overall PE for
> executing the workflow, which is composed of individual PEs for each
> service invocation - which in theory could have even deeper PEs
> detailing the command line invocations.
>
>
> The definitions of complementOf in
> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/ProvenanceModel.html#expression-complement-of
> seem to apply to this case.
>
> This somewhat solves the question if an entity can be generated by
> several PEs - you can say "Yes, but only if there is a complementOf
> relationship between PEs".
>
> If we don't go for this, then I would still want to propose a similar
> property to relate two such process executions. It could just be that
> the overall PE is "using" its children - but then we no longer
> distinguish between data and process - perhaps that is a good thing.
>
>
> You will also have a start and end-time of the Process Execution. Now
> we do don't have a formal to attach these to entities at the moment
> (Except start is related to when the Generation happened, and the
> mention of "characterization intervals" and events which is never used
> in the abstract syntax).
>
>
> However I am not sure about the entity properties for PEs - which
> properties would be "partially dependent" on each other in the case of
> two process executions?
>
> Let's say we have two PEs which are  a complementOf PE - they could be
> complementary views of the same overall process, for instance PE1 can
> have { location: "Factory" } and PE2 can have { location: "Warehouse"
> } - both part of the overall PE describing how the product came appear
> in a box in a shop.
>
>
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