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Re: PROV-ISSUE-49 (Participation): Suggested definition for Participation [Conceptual Model]

From: Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 08:53:43 +0200
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CC: "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
To: Stephan Zednik <zednis@rpi.edu>
+1 for participation being with respect to agents and being a more general version of control.

Paul

On Jul 27, 2011, at 4:19, Stephan Zednik <zednis@rpi.edu> wrote:

> I would argue against Participation as a parent property of 
> isGeneratedBy.  I do not think that being the result of a process 
> execution entails participation.  Does a cake participate in getting 
> baked?  Does 'book now owned by person b' participate in getting sold 
> from person A to person B?
> 
> For that matter, I am not sure I am happy with Participation as a parent 
> property of isUsedBy.  When I think of participation I think of agents.  
> Agents participate, non-agents get used.  If a thing with no agency is 
> acted upon in a process execution, is it participating?
> 
> I would agree that Participation is a parent property to 
> isControlledBy.  It would seem logical to argue that an agent that 
> controls a process execution, participates in the process execution.
> 
> --Stephan
> 
> On 7/26/2011 7:29 PM, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:
>> PROV-ISSUE-49 (Participation): Suggested definition for Participation [Conceptual Model]
>> 
>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/49
>> 
>> Raised by: Satya Sahoo
>> On product: Conceptual Model
>> 
>> Participation is a property linking BOB with Process execution,where BOB isUsedBy or isGeneratedBy or plays some other role in a Process execution.
>> 
>> This definition makes participation a parent property of both isUsedBy and isGeneratedBy properties. Also, this helps cover scenarios where BOB helps in execution of a process but is not consumed by or generated by process execution (it can be re-used in another process execution)
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