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Re: prov:supersededBy missing? (was Re: PROVO-O in QUDT)

From: Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:43:52 -0500
Cc: pgroth@gmail.com, "public-prov-comments@w3.org" <public-prov-comments@w3.org>
Message-Id: <138B3D23-8D3D-4F3E-AA83-6581638AFACF@rpi.edu>
To: "Ralph TQ [Gmail]" <rhodgson@topquadrant.com>
Ralph,

I forgot to mention, have you looked at PROV's invalidation?

http://www.w3.org/TR/prov-o/#invalidated
http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-prov-dm-20120724/Overview.html#term-Invalidation

It carries some of the "no longer valid" notion that you describe.

Regards,
Tim Lebo



On Nov 5, 2012, at 1:08 PM, "Ralph TQ [Gmail]" <rhodgson@topquadrant.com> wrote:

> Paul,
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> I think the semantics of 'supersededBy' are different to 'wasRevisionOf'. When something is superseded it no longer should be referred to. Whereas when something is a revision of something else all versions my still be valid. We see this in many document-centric environments. For example at NASA, a specification for telemetry and commanding of vehicles existed in a number of concurrently valid revisions (REV A, REV B, etc.).  Each revision having justification in specific contexts-of-use. Moreover 'supersedes' and 'supersededBy' are very commonly used at W3C.
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> On Nov 2, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Paul Groth <pgroth@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Hi Ralph,
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>> Would wasRevisionOf be of use? We do not have supersedes.
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>> Paul
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>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Ralph TQ [Gmail] <rhodgson@topquadrant.com> wrote:
>> When a unit in QUDT is superseded by another we use a property, voag:supersededBy, from the VOAG ontology.  I could not find a corresponding property in the PROV ontology.
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