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Re: Agenda for 2008.02.06

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Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 01:54:33 EST
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To: alanruttenberg@gmail.com, public-owl-wg@w3.org
i expect to be in the air during the call tomorrow (and updated the page to  
reflect that) but have a couple of comments related to the discussion  topics.
on fragments, my main concerns are that
(1) people who previously used owl lite can still use it.  peter  points out 
that it is still a subset of owl-dl so those users should be  ok.  that 
probably works.   i suggest in our documentation  for changes from owl 1.0 to owl 
1.1, we mention this explicitly.  
(2) we have at least one fragment that is simpler than all of owl-dl that  is 
a starting point for at least one class of users.   i found this  very useful 
getting people started using owl lite with owl 1.0....  many i  started on 
owl lite did end up moving to owl dl as they discovered value and  became more 
comfortable with the language.  i expect it to be even more  important with owl 
1.1 since owl dl 1.1 has even more in it (which many people  believe rightly 
so is a good thing) than owl dl 1.0, but that just means that it  may be 
viewed as even more complex by many potential new users.
on owl full, my main concern is that people who need to use classes as  
instances have some option for doing that in the owl 1.1 world.  
on rich annotations, my main request is that owl 1.1 allows me to have  
annotations on annotations.  (i get that in peter's proposal 2a so that is  one 
proposal i like)
In a message dated 2/5/2008 12:59:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
alanruttenberg@gmail.com writes:

I've  rearranged a bit to front load the discussion of OWL 1.1 Full to   
accommodate Jeremy's and Peter's Schedules.

(I still have  to check for actions that might have fallen through the  
tracker  fencepost bug)


* Admin (10 min)
* Roll  call
* Agenda amendments
* PROPOSED: Accept  [[Teleconference.2008.01.30/Minutes|Previous  

*  General Discussion (40 min)
* [[Full|'''OWL 1.1  Full''']]

* Action items status (10 min)
*  [http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/tracker/actions/pendingreview  
Pending  Review Actions]
* {{action|54}} Definition of OWL Prime/Zhe  Wu
* {{action|67}} Lead effort on formulating some examples  on b- 
nodes issues and their impact on users/Jeff Pan
*  {{action|68}} Respond to boris's parsing idea by e-mail/Jeremy   
* {{action|71}} Put his use case for punning onto  a wiki page/ 
Boris Motik
* {{action|74}} Edit references  in syntax to address addison's  
bcp47 comment/Jeremy  Carroll
* {{action|75}} Write proposal to resolve 90 to drop  deprecation  
and document in changes
* {{action|77}}  Send an e-mail to the list with ideas on how to  
bridge DLP and OWL  Prime/Boris Motik
* {{action|39}} Imports proposal  1
* [http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/tracker/actions/overdue Due  and  
overdue Actions]
* {{action|42}} Improve  examples for rich annotations./Bijan Parsia
* {{action|43}}  Develop scripts to extract test cases from wiki,  
coordinating with  Bijan, Jeremy, Alan./Sandro Hawke
* {{action|62}} Add test  guidelines to working group to agenda  
for next week/Alan  Ruttenberg
* {{action|70}} Put his use case for punning onto  a wiki page/ 
Markus Krötzsch
* {{action|72}} Put his use  case for punning onto a wiki page  
(for reasoning associated with  punned properties, and the question  
about object data property  punning vs annotation properties)/Alan  

* Issues  (25 min)
* Raised Issues
* Resolved Editorial  Issues
* Issue Discussions
*  [http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/tracker/issues/3 Issue 3] Lack of   
anonymous individuals
*  [http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/tracker/issues/68 Issue 68] mapping   
rules are non-monotonic (more precisely, this relates to the mapping   
of the qualified cardinality constructors)
*  [http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/tracker/issues/91 Issue 91] Spec  
lacks  ontology properties (compatibility with OWL 1.0)
*  [http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/tracker/issues/95 Issue 95] No   
compatibility restrictions between the datatype being restricted and   
the facets in the DatatypeRestriction construct

* Additional other  business (5 min)

== Next Week(s) ==

* General Discussions (not  necessarily in this order)
* [[Fragment_Proposals|Fragments and  Conformance]] (To Be Continued)
* [[Imports]]
* OWL 1.1  Full (see [[RDF|Mapping to RDF]],   
[[Compatibility_between_OWL_DL_and_OWL_Full|OWL DL/Full  compatibility]])
* Versioning
* [[Easy_Keys|Easy  Keys]]
* [[Annotation_System|Rich Annotations]]

== Regrets  ==
* partial regrets: [[JeremyCarroll]] will leave at XX.45,   
(conflicting engagement).
* partial regrets: [[Peter Patel-Schneider]]  will leave about 75 min in

== Call in details ==

* Date of Call:  Wednesday February 6, 2007
* Time of Call:  [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/?  
year=2008&month=02&day=06&hour=18&min=0&sec=0 1800  UTC], 10:00AM  
(West US), 1:00PM (East US), 18:00 (London), 19:00  (Paris)
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*  Duration: 90 minutes
* Chair: [[AlanRuttenberg|AlanRuttenberg]]
*  Scribe: [[Scribe_List|Scribe List]]
* Link to Agenda:  http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Teleconference.  

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