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Re: UML-OWL Generator, A product to convert UML into OWL

From: Mitch Kokar <mkokar@vistology.com>
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 07:23:23 -0400
Cc: UML-OWL Gen <info@umlowlgen.com>, 'Bijan Parsia' <bparsia@cs.manchester.ac.uk>, public-owl-dev@w3.org
Message-Id: <C362141E-5976-462C-A1BC-EA5F7AD7DF46@vistology.com>
To: Elisa Kendall <ekendall@sandsoft.com>
And going one more step back in the history of ODM, we had a paper  
published on the issues of the UML-OWL mapping in 2002:

K. Baclawski, M. M. Kokar, P. A. Kogut, L. Hart, J. Smith, J.  
Letkowski, and P. Emery. Extending the unified modeling language for  
ontology development. Software and Systems Modeling, 1, 2:142-156, 2002.

   author = {Baclawski, K. and Kokar, M. M. and Kogut, P. A. and Hart,  
                   and Smith, J. and Letkowski, J. and Emery, P.},
   title = {Extending the Unified Modeling Language
                  for Ontology Development},
   journal = {Software and Systems Modeling},
   volume = {1, 2},
   pages = {142--156},
   year = 2002

===Mitch Kokar

On May 4, 2009, at 12:32 AM, Elisa Kendall wrote:

In addition to our ODM work, which does include a mapping chapter  
describing a number of issues and approaches for mapping from UML to  
OWL (in addition to the language metamodel and profiles which would  
facilitate this process), there is prior art from AT&T Federal systems  
in the form of a set of tools they developed more than 5 years ago  
with Lockheed Martin that supported a direct mapping from UML to OWL  
and back.  The tools were documented in a number of papers, released  
in late 2004 as an open source project, which is still available at http://projects.semwebcentral.org/projects/codip/ 
..  The Duet project was early work, but was effective at taking  
vanilla UML models, without benefit of the ODM metamodel or profile  
mappings, and producing OWL.

Best regards,


UML-OWL Gen wrote:
> Bijan,
>  We'll take your sarcastic feedback in positive way, even it wasn't.
> The generator is "Patent Pending", so you will not find in Google  
> for a year
> period.
> This work is different from Elisa's work, where her work is more  
> about ODM,
> UML-OWL Generator has nothing to do with ODM.
> The generator works only from UML to OWL, and the unique thing about  
> it is
> how it deals with complex UML models & metamodels of multiple  
> packages, not
> toy examples as most literatures ended up with.
> We would be happy if you point us at any product of one of "many
> literatures" that works in real production environment.
> We appreciate your feedback on the website, we will add a web  
> service for
> "Try It" to support interactive test, and will make models and  
> ontologies
> available on "Test Case".
> Thanks,
> UML-OWL Team info@umlowlgen.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-owl-dev-request@w3.org [mailto:public-owl-dev-request@w3.org 
> ]
> On Behalf Of Bijan Parsia
> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 5:47 AM
> To: UML-OWL Gen
> Cc: public-owl-dev@w3.org; Elisa F. Kendall
> Subject: Re: UML-OWL Generator, A product to convert UML into OWL
> Well, I hate to be the first pile on, buuuuuuut...
> ...what do you think you are patenting? It's hard to see anything   
> patentable here. What is patentable doesn't seem worth patenting  
> and  certainly not worth the antipathy that 1) patenting and 2)  
> pimping  your prima facie silly patenting generates.
> (Given the many mapping of UML to OWL in the literature, I would be   
> interested to know what you thought was novel.)
> I couldn't fine your patent in google's patent search, but I did find:
>    http://www.google.com/patents?id=NR6XAAAAEBAJ
> though Elisa is a member of the OWL WG thus, presumably, is going  
> to  be somewhat RANDy about this. I guess that one is going "the  
> other  way", i.e., OWL to UML.
> Finally, having your "try it" be "email us stuff and we'll email  
> you  stuff back in 24 hrs":
> 	http://www.umlowlgen.com/index.php?p=1_4_Try-It-
> is...well,  silly. Why not set up an actual, if limited, web service?
> Similarly, your "test case" consists of a screen shot and a set of   
> stats...why not have the actual models/ontologies available for   
> download?
> Finally, I don't see any pricing, download, or sales contact.
> Not auspicious.
> Cheers,
> Bijan.
Received on Monday, 4 May 2009 11:25:48 UTC

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