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Re: OWL "Sydney Syntax", structured english

From: Adrian Walker <adriandwalker@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 15:39:53 -0500
Message-ID: <1e89d6a40611301239y34883982jc0cb1057e10c64e0@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Kaarel Kaljurand" <kaljurand@gmail.com>, public-owl-dev@w3.org
Kaarel --

Thanks for making your parser available as a service on the web.

In general, I believe that is the way to go, so that  SW and AI designs can
actually be tested.

That said, my misgivings about  the grammar-dictionary approach to
translating English into executable logic remain.

Your initial example works fine.  Then,  I make a minor change to

                       John+likes+someone+if+that+person+owns+a+car.

and I get

<messages>
<message importance="error" type="sentence" sentence="1" token=""
value="John likes someone if that person owns a car ." repair="This is the
first sentence that was not ACE. Please rephrase it!"/>
</messages>

So, are you optimistic that this would scale up to, say, inputting the
knowledge for the example in [1]?

If not, are there other kinds of tasks where the approach will be valuable?

                                                    Best regards,  -- Adrian

[1]
www.reengineeringllc.com/Oil_Industry_Supply_Chain_by_Kowalski_and_Walker.pdf


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On 11/30/06, Kaarel Kaljurand <kaljurand@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> On 11/30/06, Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 19:54 +0100, Kaarel Kaljurand wrote:
> > >
> > > That would be an easy change, but I think the round-trip requirement
> > > is really important. It enables the "view source" effect, i.e. one can
> view
> > > the OWL file in ACE, do some modifications (in ACE) and publish it
> > > again (in OWL).
> > > Knowing the details of ACE wouldn't be needed in many cases.
> >
> > Yes, that's a good point; I didn't happen to see tools that go the
> > other way. I'm interested in any pointers.
>
> The ACE->OWL direction is integrated into the ACE parser which can be
> used as a REST-webservice. E.g. to get the OWL RDF/XML of an ACE
> sentence "John likes everybody who owns a car." just click on:
>
>
> http://www.ifi.unizh.ch/cgi-bin/attempto/ape/apews.cgi?text=John+likes+everybody+who+owns+a+car.&solo=owlrdf
>
> The webservice is documented here:
>
> http://www.ifi.unizh.ch/attempto/documentation/ape_webservice.html
>
> The ACE->OWL direction is documented here:
>
> http://www.ifi.unizh.ch/attempto/documentation/writing_owl_in_ace.html
>
> There are limitations, it's work in progress.
>
> I'll create a Protege plugin (that integrates both directions)
> once I've figured out how the Protege API works.
>
> --
> kaarel
>
>
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