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Re: w3.org/ns/opengov

From: Gannon Dick <gannon_dick@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 18:24:56 +0000 (UTC)
To: Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>, James McKinney <james@slashpoundbang.com>
Cc: <public-opengov@w3.org>, Daniel Schwabe <dschwabe@inf.puc-rio.br>
Message-ID: <296666055.5622302.1447871096364.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Hi James,

FWIW ...

I know my old pal Phil likes his sentiment analysis, but Legislative Processes are deterministic and complete in temporal coordinate systems. Universal Coordinated Time is coordinated East to West and North to South. The integration (summation) of votes does not process including the SKOS "Open World Assumption" de jure, that is in a single coordinated dimension.

One can state the entailments several ways (e.g.):
1) After an election, both the Position (Office) and Location (Office Address) are defined for both winner (Office, Office Address) and loser (Out of Office, At Some Other Address).

2) There is no accounting for fractional corruption in a political system.  The mere addition of one corrupt transaction is insertive, not transitive.  Corruption conveys no muscle memory, or as Americans say, an honest Politician is one who stays bought.

3) Expect Prince George to be a cute kid.  Any grandmothers think their grandchildren are cute, but not all grandmothers have Aircraft Carriers (c.f. the Reification Fallacy).

... I could go on.  Politics is objectively fun but processing of Linked Data is subjectively serious.

JSON or JSONLD obscures the vote counting (aka ground truth, universal coordinated processing truth).  I would suggest that you stick to XML and XPATH for processing ease.  In particular, try ISO 17469-1 Strategy Markup Language (StratML) to register Stakeholder Group opinions and sentiments (http://www.aiim.org/Research-and-Publications/Standards/Committees/StratML).

-- Gannon

PS. I have blind copied some people who can help with StratML.  I am sure they will be in touch.  Some of them fly south to Brazil for the winter, all of them wish they could, of course.

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On Wed, 11/18/15, James McKinney <james@slashpoundbang.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: w3.org/ns/opengov
 To: "Phil Archer" <phila@w3.org>
 Cc: public-opengov@w3.org, "Daniel Schwabe" <dschwabe@inf.puc-rio.br>
 Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2015, 9:07 AM
 
 Hi Phil,
 
 I checked the archives, but I
 could not find Daniel Schwabe’s message. Was it made to
 another list?
 
 I had been
 using that namespace as a placeholder with the intention of
 eventually following up about its use. (To my knowledge,
 everyone is using Popolo as plain JSON and not taking
 advantage of any RDF features, so nothing relies on the
 namespace at the moment.) I chose that namespace because my
 understanding of the terms for W3C Community Groups is that
 an identically-named namespace can be made available.
 However, I haven’t spoken to anyone at W3C about it. So,
 let this be the start of that discussion! What are the next
 steps?
 
 Cheers,
 
 James
 
 >
 On Nov 18, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>
 wrote:
 > 
 > James,
 > 
 > As you may recall
 from his postings on this list a few weeks back, Daniel
 Schwabe is looking into using the Popolo vocabulary.
 He's brought my attention to your/Popolo's use of a
 w3.org namespace that doesn't dereference, i.e.
 www.w3.org/ns/opengov
 > 
 > We can probably help with that, i.e. we
 could potentially host the vocabulary, but we'd need to
 go through a few hoops to get there. Can you please fill me
 in on how the use of this namespace has come about? Did you
 talk to anyone at W3C about it? I want to be helpful and
 support the work you/this community is doing as it's
 clearly valuable but in order to do that, we need to work
 together.
 > 
 >
 Thanks
 > 
 > Phil.
 > 
 > --
 > 
 > 
 > Phil Archer
 > W3C Data
 Activity Lead
 > http://www.w3.org/2013/data/
 > 
 > http://philarcher.org
 > +44 (0)7887 767755
 >
 @philarcher1
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