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Resolution for LC Comment -2393 and LC Comment -2395

From: Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 09:08:37 +0100
Message-ID: <4CD90185.90904@w3.org>
To: James Salsman <jsalsman@talknicer.com>, "public-media-annotation@w3.org" <public-media-annotation@w3.org>
Dear James,

The MAWG has sent an email to you on Nov 4th. We have no response from you.

As mentionned during the phone call we have added WebM container format 
into the Ontology spec. It mentions VP8.
http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-1.0/mediaont-1.0.html#d0e13162


We must now move forward and publish our second last Call. Please let us 
know ASAP that you are OK with our resolution for both LC Comment -2393 
and LC Comment -2395.

Best,
Thierry




Dear James,

thanks for calling in today, it was very useful to discuss this issue on 
the phone.

To summarise, the media ontology defines a core set of properties (see 
[1] in the LC version), and not of codes. Most of these are descriptive, 
as well as a few general technical properties. We list some metadata 
formats (not codecs) as formats in scope, and we define mappings for 
these formats to our ontology. Currently, the API is for reading this 
metadata only.

None of our current use cases (see [2] for the use case and requirements 
document) requires accessing the audiovisual content, thus data access 
is considered out of scope. We agree that container formats (such as 
Ogg) contain metadata -- irrespective of the codec used for the essence 
inside -- and thus have added mappings tables for those.

We tried to keep the technical metadata properties to the minimum 
required by our use cases, not including properties that are specific to 
certain media types of codecs.

As we said in the phone call today, we do not plan to include speex and 
VP8, as we have not included any other codecs that might be relevant 
(e.g. MPEG-2), but only metadata formats and containers. However, if you 
think, that the mapping for metadata properties from Ogg with speex to 
our ontology is different than what is currently listed in the Ogg 
table, please send us these mappings and we will include them.

Also, as mentioned by Daniel, there might be a possibility to define 
additional use cases for a future version of the ontology next year.

Please let us know until the end of the week, if you approve this 
resolution of your comment.

Best regards,
Werner

[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-mediaont-10-20100608/#core-property-lists
[2] http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-media-annot-reqs-20100121/

________________________________________
Von: public-media-annotation-request@w3.org 
[public-media-annotation-request@w3.org] im Auftrag von James Salsman 
[jsalsman@talknicer.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 02. November 2010 19:01
An: Daniel Park
Cc: tmichel@w3.org; public-media-annotation@w3.org
Betreff: Re: invitation to discuss LC Comment -2393 and LC Comment -2395

Please send me the telebridge instructions.  Thank you.


On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Daniel Park <soohongp@gmail.com> wrote:
 > First, here is the proposed resolutions sent back to you before twice.
 >
 > 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Sep/0225.html
 > 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Sep/0227.html
 > Our schedule for comments resolutions is Thur and Fri morning in France
 > Timezone. You can join in your convenient time through telebridge.
 > Looking forward to seeing your feedbacks in this F2F.
 >
 > Daniel
 >
 > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 2:33 AM, James Salsman <jsalsman@talknicer.com>
 > wrote:
 >>
 >> Are there teleconference dialing instructions and a specific time?
 >>
 >> Where can I read the proposed resolution?
 >>
 >>
 >> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Daniel Park <soohongp@gmail.com> 
wrote:
 >> > James,
 >> >
 >> > I've scheduled for your comments resolution in Thursday Morning during
 >> > the
 >> > TPAC.
 >> > Can you join ?
 >> > Otherwise, please do let me know your comments on the decision to move
 >> > it
 >> > forward, particularly 2393/2395 based on our proposed resolution.
 >> > Daniel
 >> > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:49 AM, James Salsman 
<jsalsman@talknicer.com>
 >> > wrote:
 >> >>
 >> >> I will call in to the telecon Tuesday 2010-10-26 11:00-12:00 UTC.
 >> >> Please send instructions for the bridge.
 >> >>
 >> >> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:37 AM, Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org> 
wrote:
 >> >> > James,
 >> >> >
 >> >> > You have raised a formal objection about
 >> >> > * LC Comment -2393 on Media Ontology spec [1]
 >> >> > * LC Comment -2395 on Media API spec [2]
 >> >> >
 >> >> >
 >> >> > We would like to come to a resolution for these 2 comments. 
Therefore
 >> >> > we
 >> >> > would like to invite you to join a telecon with the MAWG.
 >> >> >
 >> >> > We could discuss it:
 >> >> > - during our next one hour telecon Tuesday 2010-10-26 11:00-12:00
 >> >> > UTC,
 >> >> > (ie,
 >> >> > Paris, 13:00)
 >> >> >
 >> >> > - during our F2F at TPAC in Lyon, Thursday and Friday Nov 4-5th.
 >> >> > Looking at the TPAC registration you don't seem to attend it, 
but we
 >> >> > could
 >> >> > organize a call with you, during our meeting sometime between
 >> >> > 8:00-15:00
 >> >> > UTC
 >> >> >
 >> >> >
 >> >> > Please let us know which option you favor.
 >> >> >
 >> >> > Best,
 >> >> >
 >> >> > Thierry.
 >> >> >
 >> >> >
 >> >> > [1]
 >> >> >
 >> >> >
 >> >> > 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0088.html
 >> >> >
 >> >> > [2]
 >> >> >
 >> >> >
 >> >> > 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0077.html
 >> >> >
 >> >>
 >> >
 >> >
 >> >
 >> > --
 >> > Soohong Daniel Park
 >> > Samsung Electronics, DMC R&D
 >> > http://www.soohongp.com, twitter:@natpt
 >> >
 >
 >
 >
 > --
 > Soohong Daniel Park
 > Samsung Electronics, DMC R&D
 > http://www.soohongp.com, twitter:@natpt
 >
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