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Re: [AGENDA] Media Annotations WG Teleconf - 2010-12-21

From: StrassnerˇˇJohn Charles <johns@postech.ac.kr>
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 17:43:24 +0900 (KST)
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To: Joakim S?derberg <joakim.soderberg@ericsson.com>, "public-media-annotation@w3.org" <public-media-annotation@w3.org>

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Please accept my apologies; I will be flying home to the US on the 21st.



regards,

John


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From : 
&quot;Joakim S?derberg&quot;&lt;joakim.soderberg@ericsson.com&gt;


To : 
&quot;public-media-annotation@w3.org&quot;&lt;public-media-annotation@w3.org&gt;


Date : 
2010/12/12 Sunday AM 1:40:37


Subject : 
[AGENDA] Media Annotations WG Teleconf - 2010-12-21







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Dear all,

            
Decision by majority vote suggests that the next teleconference will be on December 21
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As already announced, we will focus on the proposed updates to the abstract ontology, and resolve open action items in order to publish the ontology doc on a second last call. Please have a look at your (new and old) open actions. For example we are missing LC comment reviews from Daniel (a-334,343), Wonsuk (a-328) and Jean-Pierre (a-348).

            
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Best Regards

            
/Joakim

            
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1. Convene

            
Media Annotations WG

            
Zakim
 
Bridge
 +1.617.761.6200, conference 6294 (&quot;MAWG&quot;) Alternative dial numbers:

            
France
 (Nice): +33.4.26.46.79.03

            
UK
 (
Bristol
) : +44.117.370.6152

            
IRC channel: #mediaann

            
Tuesday 2010-12-21 12:00-13:00 UTC, (ie, 
Amsterdam
, 
Paris
, 
Stockholm
 13:00)

            
Regrets: Tobias

            
Chair: Joakim

            
Scribe: TBA

            
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Minutes to appear: 
http://www.w3.org/2010/12/21-mediaann-minutes.html

            
Propose to accept F2F minutes: 
http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html

            
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2. Next meeting

            
TBA (2011)

            
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3. Items

            
[A] Action items:

            
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open

            
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[B] Discuss the set of changes to the (abstract) Ontology, summarized here by Jean-Pierre:

            
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PART I

            
1) It is proposed to add track as a sub-class of fragment to help aligning with MFWG

            
2) It is proposed to add videoTrack and audioTrack to which currently existing specialised properties like frameRate or sampleRate will be more specifically linked as well as a better use of the compression property

            
3) It is proposed to add captioningTrack to better align with MFWG and also to address subtitling more properly

            
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4) It is proposed to change createDate (or creationDate) as &quot;date&quot; and list createDate (or creationDate) at the same level as releaseDate, etc.&nbsp; This allows better hierarchical representation of dates in the RDF ontology as, for example, releaseDate cannot be considered as a subclass of createDate?

            
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5) RatingValue should be float but it should now have been corrected in the API following today review of actions.

            
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6) language and compression should allow string but also anyURI values, which would allow using SKOS concepts from classification schemes

            
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PART II

            
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1) We are not providing any information about signing, which is definitely important for accessibility

            
2) We are not providing very detailed information on captioning

            
3) I would therefore propose for discussion tomorrow the addition of signing and a number of properties such as the &lsquo;purpose&rsquo; (is signing or captioning there for translation, subtitling, audio description, etc.), the language used (valid for signing as well as captioning) and maybe an attribute like closed vs. open signing or captioning

            
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[C] Follow up on Implementation of LC comments

            
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1- Media Ontology spec

            
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-- LC Comment -2405:&nbsp; JP Evain:

            
Introduction

            
-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Note to implementers, content authors - not really explicit, maybe these roles should be mentioned saying things like &quot;it is expected that implementers will do.&quot;&nbsp; &quot;. to the benefit of content providers&quot;, etc.

            
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-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; There is no section 1.1 on the purpose of the specification (yet)

            
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Section 4.1 core property definitions -&gt; now section 5.1

            
-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The ma: prefix still appears in the table but since the comment was made Pierre Antoine, while working on the mapping table suggested that the prefix should only be used with the ma-ont namespace in the RDF -&gt; reconsider position?

            
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Section 4.2.2 - no change as explained in previous response - tables in line -&gt; now 5.2.2

            
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Joakim: &quot;our specification&quot; is replaced by &quot;this specification&quot; (OK), But &quot;our Ontology&quot; (two occurrences in section 1)

            
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Other comments from JP review

            
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The abstract and introduction should mention the definition of the RDF ontology and the mapping table that will come with it.

            
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-- LC Comment -2389 : NO - partially implemented 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Nov/0086.html

            
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-- LC Comment -2404 : NO - partially implemented 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Nov/0093.html

            
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Nov/0085.html

            
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Nov/0094.html

            
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-- LC Comment -2418: NO - partially implemented (Edits are missing) see edits at 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Nov/0073.html

            
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2- Media API spec

            
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-- LC Comment -2406 : NOT reviewed

            
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-- LC Comment -2419 : NO partially implemented 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Nov/0090.html

            
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-- LC Comment -2410 : OK But Chris must add V?ronique's edits see edits at:

            
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Nov/0107.html

            
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Nov/0106.html

            
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[D] reminder : Metadata examples needed!

            
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Nov/0081.html

            
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During the F2F in 
Lyon
, we decided to verify our mapping ontology by having metadata in each format AOB

            
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Best Regards

            
/Joakim

            
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