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Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 14:59:45 -0400
Message-ID: <4FB69C21.3000000@openlinksw.com>
To: Eric Franzon <eric@semanticweb.com>
CC: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>, Aidan Hogan <aidan.hogan@deri.org>, "public-lod@w3.org" <public-lod@w3.org>, "semantic-web@w3.org" <semantic-web@w3.org>, "public-rww@w3.org" <public-rww@w3.org>
On 5/18/12 1:41 PM, Eric Franzon wrote:
> Although, really, if TimBL doesn't yet see anything as he just 
> reported, that may shoot the "influence" hypothesis right out of the 
> water. ;)

Quite the contrary, you over simplify :-) That's a little more inline 
with my theory i.e., release the service via nodes that will celebrate 
rather that scrutinize etc..

"Stings to Things that are Nameless" != Linked Data and the Semantic 
Web. Thus, what's TimBL got to celebrate about such an effort? If I was 
in Google's shoes, he would be the last person I would want scrutinizing 
Google Knowledge Graph, seriously!

Kingsley


>
> Cheers,
> --Eric
>
> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Eric Franzon <eric@semanticweb.com 
> <mailto:eric@semanticweb.com>> wrote:
>
>     I also am still not getting to view GKG enrichments either. It
>     truly seems to be a gradual roll-out (as Google confirmed to us
>     yesterday:
>     http://semanticweb.com/google-knowledge-graph-interview_b29172). I
>     have tried all three of my Google accounts, all of which have
>     completed profiles, but to no avail.
>
>     What the representative we interviewed indicated is that they are
>     rolling out slowly to account holders "over the next few days."
>     THEN, they will begin with general Google.com visitors. And then I
>     suspect they will (again gradually) start rolling it out across
>     other global Googles.
>
>     I was interested in Kingsley's experiment because it was based on
>     the theory that some measure of "social influence" might be at
>     play in the algorithm. While my ego might certainly wish to
>     believe that I (and semanticweb.com <http://semanticweb.com>) have
>     such influence, I acknowledge that Danny Sullivan, Kara Swisher,
>     et al probably have more in the broader tech world. ;-)
>
>     Of course, if Google would mention "Semantic Web" in their
>     marketing material or acknowledge any of the other work that has
>     come before, that would no doubt help with the "influence" of all
>     of us on these lists. But I digress... for more on /that/
>     perspective, you may wish to see Sean Golliher's editorial which
>     will be published at SemanticWeb.com at the top of the next hour
>     (2:00pm ET in the US).
>
>     Cheers,
>     --Eric
>
>
>
>
>     On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org
>     <mailto:ivan@w3.org>> wrote:
>
>         Well... I tried this trick, but does not change a thing. Yes,
>         the search happens on www.google.com <http://www.google.com>,
>         but I presume it knows that I am, hm, considered as Dutch and
>         sticks to its guns: I see nothing of the GKG on my screen.
>
>         Ivan
>
>         On May 18, 2012, at 17:57 , Aidan Hogan wrote:
>
>         > All,
>         >
>         > On 18/05/2012 05:51, Eric Franzon wrote:
>         >> Actually, some modest testing has shown something other
>         than geography at play here. Earlier today, colleagues in
>         London and California were able to see GKG rich data
>         visualizations, while others in the US (myself included --
>         also in California) and Europe could not.
>         >>
>         >> I spoke to a Google representative this afternoon who
>         confirmed the gradual roll-out, but would not (or could not)
>         discuss the algorithm. He did hint that people with Google
>         accounts will be first to see the enhancements.
>         >
>         > In my experience, the most reliable way to see GKG in action is:
>         >
>         > Visit http://google.com/ncr
>         > (the "/ncr" suffix stops you redirecting to a local version)
>         >
>         > Be logged in with a Google account.
>         >
>         > Try a typical entity search (e.g., "Galway").
>         >
>         > Cheers,
>         > Aidan
>
>
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