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Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

From: Jürgen Jakobitsch <j.jakobitsch@semantic-web.at>
Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 21:05:20 +0200 (CEST)
To: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Cc: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>, Aidan Hogan <aidan.hogan@deri.org>, public-lod@w3.org, semantic-web@w3.org, public-rww@w3.org, Eric Franzon <eric@semanticweb.com>
Message-ID: <857b62fc-1cbb-43c6-bde3-223db758aa18@zcs>
did you mean "sphinx to rings"?

wkr j

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
To: "Eric Franzon" <eric@semanticweb.com>
Cc: "Ivan Herman" <ivan@w3.org>, "Aidan Hogan" <aidan.hogan@deri.org>, public-lod@w3.org, semantic-web@w3.org, public-rww@w3.org
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 8:59:45 PM
Subject: Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

On 5/18/12 1:41 PM, Eric Franzon wrote: 


Although, really, if TimBL doesn't yet see anything as he just reported, that may shoot the "influence" hypothesis right out of the water. ;) 

Quite the contrary, you over simplify :-) That's a little more inline with my theory i.e., release the service via nodes that will celebrate rather that scrutinize etc.. 

"Stings to Things that are Nameless" != Linked Data and the Semantic Web. Thus, what's TimBL got to celebrate about such an effort? If I was in Google's shoes, he would be the last person I would want scrutinizing Google Knowledge Graph, seriously! 

Kingsley 






Cheers, 
--Eric 


On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Eric Franzon < eric@semanticweb.com > wrote: 



I also am still not getting to view GKG enrichments either. It truly seems to be a gradual roll-out (as Google confirmed to us yesterday: http://semanticweb.com/google-knowledge-graph-interview_b29172 ). I have tried all three of my Google accounts, all of which have completed profiles, but to no avail. 

What the representative we interviewed indicated is that they are rolling out slowly to account holders "over the next few days." THEN, they will begin with general Google.com visitors. And then I suspect they will (again gradually) start rolling it out across other global Googles. 

I was interested in Kingsley's experiment because it was based on the theory that some measure of "social influence" might be at play in the algorithm. While my ego might certainly wish to believe that I (and semanticweb.com ) have such influence, I acknowledge that Danny Sullivan, Kara Swisher, et al probably have more in the broader tech world. ;-) 

Of course, if Google would mention "Semantic Web" in their marketing material or acknowledge any of the other work that has come before, that would no doubt help with the "influence" of all of us on these lists. But I digress... for more on that perspective, you may wish to see Sean Golliher's editorial which will be published at SemanticWeb.com at the top of the next hour (2:00pm ET in the US). 

Cheers, 
--Eric 






On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Ivan Herman < ivan@w3.org > wrote: 


Well... I tried this trick, but does not change a thing. Yes, the search happens on www.google.com , but I presume it knows that I am, hm, considered as Dutch and sticks to its guns: I see nothing of the GKG on my screen. 

Ivan 



On May 18, 2012, at 17:57 , Aidan Hogan wrote: 

> All, 
> 
> On 18/05/2012 05:51, Eric Franzon wrote: 
>> Actually, some modest testing has shown something other than geography at play here. Earlier today, colleagues in London and California were able to see GKG rich data visualizations, while others in the US (myself included -- also in California) and Europe could not. 
>> 
>> I spoke to a Google representative this afternoon who confirmed the gradual roll-out, but would not (or could not) discuss the algorithm. He did hint that people with Google accounts will be first to see the enhancements. 
> 
> In my experience, the most reliable way to see GKG in action is: 
> 
> Visit http://google.com/ncr 
> (the "/ncr" suffix stops you redirecting to a local version) 
> 
> Be logged in with a Google account. 
> 
> Try a typical entity search (e.g., "Galway"). 
> 
> Cheers, 
> Aidan 




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