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Re: OpenLink Data Explorer for Chrome & Safari

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 12:10:51 -0500
Message-ID: <4D1B6B9B.3050601@openlinksw.com>
To: Francois-Paul Servant <francois-paul.servant@noos.fr>
CC: "public-lod@w3.org" <public-lod@w3.org>
On 12/28/10 6:13 PM, Francois-Paul Servant wrote:
> Kingsley,
>
> thanks.

Note, ODE is a little old relative to current work we are doing re. 
Linked Data tools. For instance, it doesn't provide a cursor based 
paging UI which is why your browser is easily overwhelmed with data that 
describes <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Paris> .

Here is an example of a cursor driven paging UI:

1. http://uriburner.com/describe/?uri=http://dbpedia.org/resource/Paris 
- Page 1 of 41
2. 
http://uriburner.com/describe/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fresource%2FParis&p=40 
-- Page 40

Kingsley
>
> Le 28 déc. 2010 à 23:13, Kingsley Idehen a écrit :
>
>> On 12/28/10 4:57 PM, Francois-Paul Servant wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I just installed ODE in safari, didn't read the doc, and tried it on
>>> http://dbpedia.org/page/Paris
>>
>> Is an HTML document about <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Paris 
>> <http://dbpedia.org/page/Paris>>
>>>
>>> After some time (and a warning "slow script, do you want to 
>>> continue?"), I got a result that is not really what I was expecting.
>>>
>>> Shouldn't we get, more or less, what we get when dereferencing 
>>> http://dbpedia.org/resource/Paris ?
>> No. Two distinct things: Entity Name and Address of an HTML Document 
>> Describing said Entity.
>
> OK, I understand they are different things. However, in terms of "data 
> content", they are the same : the page is just an HTML representation 
> of the RDF data about the resource. I thought that ODE would give me 
> the possibility to get back to the original data, and have another 
> look at it: to collect the data contained in such HTML pages (either 
> included directly in RDFa triples, or linked to it though the 
> foaf:primaryTopic prop in the header) and to be able to have a 
> different look at that data (using the the display formats allowed by 
> the "data browser"). Instead of that, I get data that seems to be far 
> from the "primaryTopic" of the page. I understand that I can get that 
> pasting the URI of the resource in ODE - but this is not as natural as 
> browsing to the page about the resource, and then "switching" to a 
> view about the RDF content (something that would give a good demo of 
> linked data)
>
> I don't know how you compute the triples for the page, but the result 
> (at least in the case of Paris) is not usable for a demo about "linked 
> data" : I was on a page about Paris, and I get in ODE, for instance, a 
> lot of pictures that are very far from that topic.
>
> fps
>
>>
>> You will get to <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Paris> 
>> <http://dbpedia.org/page/Paris>description via foaf:primarytopic 
>> property value etc..
>>
>> You can also just place <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Paris 
>> <http://dbpedia.org/page/Paris>> into ODE and also see its 
>> description which includes relationship with 
>> <http://dbpedia.org/page/Paris> etc..
>>
>>
>>
>> Kingsley
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> fps
>>>
>>> Le 9 déc. 2010 à 16:21, Kingsley Idehen a écrit :
>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> OpenLink Data Explorer (ODE) is now available for Chrome and 
>>>> Safari. Thus, like Firefox, these extensions turn Chrome and Safari 
>>>> into Linked Data Browsers. Naturally, Opera 11 beta  is next on the 
>>>> list.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Links:
>>>>
>>>> 1. http://ode.openlinksw.com/ -- home page which includes links to 
>>>> extensions for Firefox, Safari, Chrome
>>>> 2. http://ode.openlinksw.com/#Download -- Downloads
>>>> 3. 
>>>> http://www.chromeextensions.org/webmaster-seo/openlink-data-explorer/ -- 
>>>> Chrome Extensions Page
>>>> 4. https://addons.mozilla.org/af/firefox/addon/8062/ -- Firefox 
>>>> Extensions Page .
>>>>
>>>> Naturally, we're awaiting Apple approval re. Safari extension, so 
>>>> just use the link from #1 .
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Kingsley Idehen	
>>>> President&  CEO
>>>> OpenLink Software
>>>> Web:http://www.openlinksw.com
>>>> Weblog:http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
>>>> Twitter/Identi.ca: kidehen
>>>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Kingsley Idehen	
>> President&  CEO
>> OpenLink Software
>> Web:http://www.openlinksw.com
>> Weblog:http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
>> Twitter/Identi.ca: kidehen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 

Regards,

Kingsley Idehen	
President&  CEO
OpenLink Software
Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
Twitter/Identi.ca: kidehen
Received on Wednesday, 29 December 2010 17:11:20 UTC

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