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Re: Concurrent namespaces for Creative Commons ontology

From: <nathan@yergler.net>
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 09:55:22 -0800
Message-ID: <AANLkTika1h-xY+MjOqhhQG24NumzwvW2G0crPWmLrxOw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Bernard Vatant <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>
Cc: Søren Roug <Soren.Roug@eea.europa.eu>, Linking Open Data <public-lod@w3.org>, "me@aaronsw.com" <me@aaronsw.com>, Yves Raimond <yves.raimond@gmail.com>
Hi Bernard,

Thanks for raising this issue. I can't remember why we didn't pursue a
redirect when we started using creativecommons.org/ns; that was an
obvious oversight on our part. I spoke with Aaron off-thread, and
we've set up a redirect from web.resource.org/cc/ to
creativecommons.org/ns#. Thanks again for raising the issue.

Best,

Nathan

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 5:58 AM, Yves Raimond <yves.raimond@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Bernard Vatant
> <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com> wrote:
>> Interesting ... it figures that the authoritative namespace for cc has been
>> indeed http://creativecommons.org/ns#, for at least two years and certainly
>> more.
>> But since there is no mention of the new namespace whatsoever at
>> http://web.resource.org/cc/, people can keep using it without being aware of
>> any change. I would be curious to have people behind Music Ontology for
>> example explaining why they keep using the old namespace.
>
> Simply because we never got noticed of that change! Afaik, that
> namespace has been here since the first version of MO - now almost 4
> years ago.
>
> y
>
>>
>> Bernard
>>
>> 2010/12/21 Søren Roug <Soren.Roug@eea.europa.eu>
>>>
>>> According to footnote 8 of
>>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/d/d6/Ccrel-1.0.pdf :
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 8 ... CC initially used the http://web.resource.org/cc/ namespace,
>>> migrating to http://creativecommons.org/ns# for superior human interaction
>>> with the vocabulary when it became apparent RDFa would facilitate this. In
>>> 2004 the Dublin Core Metadata Initiative approved a "license" refinement of
>>> its "rights" term (see
>>> http://dublincore.org/usage/decisions/2004/2004-01.Rights-terms.shtml). Had
>>> http:
>>>
>>> //purl.org/dc/terms/license existed in 2002, CC would not have defined
>>> http://web.resource.org/cc/license.
>>>
>>> Thanks to the extensibility properties of RDF,
>>> http://creativecommons.org/ns#license describes its relationship
>>>
>>> to each of these other properties.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sincerely yours / Med venlig hilsen, Søren Roug <soren.roug@eea.europa.eu>
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>>>
>>> From: public-lod-request@w3.org [mailto:public-lod-request@w3.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Bernard Vatant
>>> Sent: 21 December 2010 10:26
>>> To: Linking Open Data
>>> Cc: me@aaronsw.com; nathan@yergler.net
>>> Subject: Concurrent namespaces for Creative Commons ontology
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi folks
>>>
>>> It seems that there are two concurrent publications and namespaces for the
>>> Creative Commons Rights Expression Language.
>>>
>>> http://creativecommons.org/schema.rdf uses http://creativecommons.org/ns#
>>> http://web.resource.org/cc/schema.rdf uses http://web.resource.org/cc/
>>>
>>> The first one looks at first sight more reliable since it is maintained by
>>> Creative Commons folks themselves
>>> It is apparently the namespace underlying CC tag on CKAN packages
>>> http://ckan.net/tag/format-cc
>>> Datasets under this tag indeed use it, such as Eurostat or Geospecies
>>> (and BTW it would be great if CKAN tags pages could explicit the
>>> vocabulary namespace underlying the tag, if any)
>>>
>>> OTOH I found the second one to be used by a bunch of more or less famous
>>> ontologies such as:
>>>
>>> BIO http://purl.org/vocab/bio/0.1
>>> Music Ontology http://purl.org/ontology/mo/
>>> FRBR http://purl.org/vocab/frbr/core
>>> Review Ontology http://purl.org/stuff/rev
>>> Talis Address Schema http://schemas.talis.com/2005/address/schema
>>> VANN http://purl.org/vocab/vann
>>>
>>> So I wonder ... I cc people behind both vocabularies, maybe they can do
>>> something about it?
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Bernard
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bernard Vatant
>>> Senior Consultant
>>> Vocabulary & Data Engineering
>>> Tel:       +33 (0) 971 488 459
>>> Mail:     bernard.vatant@mondeca.com
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Bernard Vatant
>> Senior Consultant
>> Vocabulary & Data Engineering
>> Tel:       +33 (0) 971 488 459
>> Mail:     bernard.vatant@mondeca.com
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>> Mondeca
>> 3, cité Nollez 75018 Paris France
>> Web:    http://www.mondeca.com
>> Blog:    http://mondeca.wordpress.com
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>>
>
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