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[I18N ITS] Teleconference Minutes 2007-08-29

From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 00:13:06 +0900
Message-ID: <46D58D02.7090504@w3.org>
To: public-i18n-its@w3.org

... are at http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-minutes and below as text.

Felix


   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

                              i18n ITS WG

29 Aug 2007

   [2]Agenda

      [2] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0023.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Yves, Felix, Christian, Bartosz

   Regrets
          Jirka

   Chair
          Yves

   Scribe
          Felix

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]welcome bartosz
         2. [6]Action items
         3. [7]Choice of wording for common paragraph
         4. [8]BP discussion, no 15
         5. [9]BP 21
         6. [10]review work
         7. [11]AOB
     * [12]Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________

   <bbogacki> Hi Guys!

   <YvesS> Hello Bartosz

   Hi Bartosz

welcome bartosz

   Yves: welcome!

   Bartosz: working for XMLINTL
   ... mainly doing software engineering
   ... working on my PHD

   Yves: meeting is very informal, please don't heasitate to ask

Action items

   <scribe> new tool for AIs at
   [13]http://www.w3.org/International/its/track/actions/open

     [13] http://www.w3.org/International/its/track/actions/open

   <YvesS> [14]http://www.w3.org/International/its/track/actions

     [14] http://www.w3.org/International/its/track/actions

   Action-1 due now to 30 Aug

   ACTION-2 due to 18 Sept

   ACTION-3 postponed

   ACTION-4 now due 5 Sept

   ACTION-5 - taken by Felix

   ACTION-6 pending

   ACTION-7 - done

   [15]http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/its-errata.html

     [15] http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/its-errata.html

   Yves: question in general: got comments from Kara about spec,
   spelling errors etc., should we put them in the errata?

   Felix: yes

   <scribe> ACTION: Yves to go through Karas editorial changes and come
   up with a list for the errata [recorded in
   [16]http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]

     [16] http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-minutes.html#action01

   <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-14 - Go through Karas editorial changes
   and come up with a list for the errata [on Yves Savourel - due
   2007-09-05].

   ACTION-8

   <YvesS>
   [17]http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.ht
   ml#DevRuby

     [17] 
http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#DevRuby

   Yves: implemented Felix' editorial changes

   no input from present people on the section

   close the AI

   ACTION-9 - see
   [18]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0
   045.html

     [18] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0045.html

   Yves: proposal from Felix for a translate rule
   ... some of them should include within text rule

   Christian proposes to have some ITS schema declarations within SML
   3.0

   Felix: agree, plan to go to SMIL 3.0 people, ask them to adopt
   [19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0
   045.html plus within text rule, plus ITS schema declarations within
   SML 3.0

     [19] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0045.html

   <bbogacki> I lost the connection

   <YvesS> we noticed.

   <bbogacki> I'm trying to reconnect

   agreement from Yves and Christiean

   <scribe> ACTION: Felix to go to SMIL 3.0 people, ask them to adopt
   [20]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0
   045.html plus within text rule, plus ITS schema declarations within
   SML 3.0 [recorded in
   [21]http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-minutes.html#action02]

     [20] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0045.html
     [21] http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-minutes.html#action02

   <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-15 - Go to SMIL 3.0 people, ask them to
   adopt
   [22]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0
   045.html plus within text rule, plus ITS schema declarations within
   SML 3.0 [on Felix Sasaki - due 2007-09-05].

     [22] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0045.html

   ACTION-10 - done

   ACTION-11 - done

   Yves: sent mail today, no reply yet

   <YvesS>
   [23]http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.ht
   ml#DevUniqueID

     [23] 
http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#DevUniqueID

   ACTION-12

   <scribe> done, closed

   <YvesS>
   [24]http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.ht
   ml#DevITSRules

     [24] 
http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#DevITSRules

   ACTION-13

   Christian: well done, thanks

   <YvesS>
   [25]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0
   044.html

     [25] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0044.html

Choice of wording for common paragraph

   <YvesS>
   [26]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0
   044.html

     [26] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0044.html

   preference for 2 from Christian and Felix

   Bartosz: me as well

   Yves: I'll make the changes for the BP doc

BP discussion, no 15

   <YvesS>
   [27]http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.ht
   ml#AuthLang

     [27] 
http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#AuthLang

   <YvesS>
   [28]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0
   030.html

     [28] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0030.html

   <scribe> ACTION: Yves to reword BP 15 to include cases where a
   schema does not include xml:lang [recorded in
   [29]http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-minutes.html#action03]

     [29] http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-minutes.html#action03

   <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-16 - Reword BP 15 to include cases
   where a schema does not include xml:lang [on Yves Savourel - due
   2007-09-05].

   agreement from Yves and Felix on comment no. 2 from Christian as
   well

   Bartosz: could you provide an example?

   Christian: a French quote in an English sentence, so you switch from
   English to French. What should happen to French example during
   translation?

   Bartosz: what would the attribute indicate?

   Christian: anything, you would use the Translate datacategory

   Bartosz: sounds good

   Yves: need to be careful not to put information on borrowed words
   ... think we should add no 2, I'll do that
   ... on no. 3: agree, but no need to say s.t. about it, the less text
   we have, the more clear the BP will be

   Christian: ok

   Yves: on 4, agree
   ... also on no 5
   ... we will come back to 6

BP 21

   <YvesS>
   [30]http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.ht
   ml#AuthInsText

     [30] 
http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#AuthInsText

   [31]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0
   046.html

     [31] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0046.html

   Christian proposes to point to Richards article, Yves will make some
   wording proposals

   (related to proposal 1 from Christian)

   agreement on 2

   agreement on 3

   Yves will make rewording proposals for 4 and 5

   <scribe> ACTION: modify BP 21 based on input during 2007-08-29
   telecon [recorded in
   [32]http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-minutes.html#action04]

     [32] http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-minutes.html#action04

   <trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - modify

   <scribe> ACTION: Yves to modify BP 21 based on input during
   2007-08-29 telecon [recorded in
   [33]http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-minutes.html#action05]

     [33] http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-minutes.html#action05

   <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-17 - Modify BP 21 based on input during
   2007-08-29 telecon [on Yves Savourel - due 2007-09-05].

review work

   Yves: any news on XLIFF or SRX?

   Christian: nothing on my side

AOB

   discussion about relation between XLIFF and ITS

   value of showing XLIFF people how to create XLIFF scelecton files
   from ITS

   Yves: on f2f meeting

   not all participants confirmed yet

   Yves: Bartosz, could you look at the BP document overall, maybe you
   will have some generic comments?

   Bartosz: won't be able next week

   Yves: sure, congrats!

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Felix to go to SMIL 3.0 people, ask them to adopt
   [34]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0
   045.html plus within text rule, plus ITS schema declarations within
   SML 3.0 [recorded in
   [35]http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-minutes.html#action02]
   [NEW] ACTION: modify BP 21 based on input during 2007-08-29 telecon
   [recorded in
   [36]http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-minutes.html#action04]
   [NEW] ACTION: Yves to go through Karas editorial changes and come up
   with a list for the errata [recorded in
   [37]http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]
   [NEW] ACTION: Yves to modify BP 21 based on input during 2007-08-29
   telecon [recorded in
   [38]http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-minutes.html#action05]
   [NEW] ACTION: Yves to reword BP 15 to include cases where a schema
   does not include xml:lang [recorded in
   [39]http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-minutes.html#action03]

     [34] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0045.html
     [35] http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-minutes.html#action02
     [36] http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-minutes.html#action04
     [37] http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-minutes.html#action01
     [38] http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-minutes.html#action05
     [39] http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-minutes.html#action03

   [End of minutes]
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