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RE: I18n comment: bidirectional ordering

From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:52:50 -0000
To: "'Simon Montagu'" <smontagu@smontagu.org>, "'Martin Duerst'" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
Cc: <www-style@w3.org>, <public-i18n-core@w3.org>
Message-ID: <006701c6210e$fe7ab070$6601a8c0@w3cishida>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-i18n-core-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:public-i18n-core-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Simon Montagu
> Sent: 24 January 2006 09:53
> To: Martin Duerst
> Cc: ishida@w3.org; www-style@w3.org; public-i18n-core@w3.org
> Subject: Re: I18n comment: bidirectional ordering
> 
> 
> Martin Duerst wrote:
> > 
> > At 19:53 06/01/21, ishida@w3.org wrote:
> >  >Note that this (presumably) applies really to Hebrew but 
> not Arabic, 
> > since  >the latter script is cursive.
> > 
> > I have a vague recollection of Arabic with letters of 
> different size.
> > I hope somebody can confirm.
> > There is nothing in principle that would disallow making the first 
> > letter larger (or otherwise different in style) even if the 
> script is 
> > cursive.
> 
> What about Devanagari and similar scripts? This is a case 
> where the first letter is not necessarily at the start of the 
> line even without bidirectional ordering. I don't know if 
> traditional typography in these scripts includes any feature 
> of making the first letter different in any way.
> 
> Actually, Martin's "otherwise different in style" seems to 
> open a whole new can of worms. If different scripts have a 
> different "native" way of accentuating the first letter, an 
> appropriate property would need to be added to the Text 
> Effects module.
> 
> Simon


Simon, Martin,

I have been holding this back to get buy in at the i18n core telecon, but I
have just sent out an email asking for feedback on the use of :first-letter
in non-Latin scripts.  See 

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2006JanMar/0026.html

It was sent to www-international, but I am also thinking of sending to other
places, such as Unicore and various other contacts.

I mention here, particularly, because it echoes some of these thoughts.

RI


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