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Re: ACTION A-Redmond05-01: timezone health warning

From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 15:51:58 +0900
To: "Addison Phillips" <addison.phillips@quest.com>, ashok.malhotra@oracle.com, "Jim Melton" <jim.melton@acm.org>
Cc: "Paul Cotton" <pcotton@microsoft.com>, w3c-xsl-query@w3.org, public-i18n-core@w3.org
Message-ID: <op.swilcwuxx1753t@ibm-60d333fc0ec>

On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 09:17:24 +0900, Addison Phillips  
<addison.phillips@quest.com> wrote:

>
> I'm subscribed to the page, so I see your updates in real time. All of  
> your updates were excellent.

I agree.

-- Felix

> I corrected the only typo I saw.
>
> Addison
>
> Addison P. Phillips
> Globalization Architect, Quest Software
> Chair, W3C Internationalization Core Working Group
>
> Internationalization is not a feature.
> It is an architecture.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ashok Malhotra [mailto:ashok.malhotra@oracle.com]
>> Sent: 2005?9?2? 17:08
>> To: Addison Phillips; Jim Melton
>> Cc: Paul Cotton; w3c-xsl-query@w3.org; public-i18n-core@w3.org
>> Subject: RE: ACTION A-Redmond05-01: timezone health warning
>>
>> I made a bunch of changes.  Please take a look.
>>
>> All the best, Ashok
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: w3c-xsl-query-request@w3.org
>> > [mailto:w3c-xsl-query-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Addison Phillips
>> > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 2:49 PM
>> > To: ashok.malhotra@oracle.com; Jim Melton
>> > Cc: Paul Cotton; w3c-xsl-query@w3.org; public-i18n-core@w3.org
>> > Subject: RE: ACTION A-Redmond05-01: timezone health warning
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks Ashok.
>> >
>> > Instead of sending us a mail with proposed changes, would you
>> > consider putting them into the document directly? If you've
>> > not used the Wiki previously, note that you can't really hurt
>> > the document and this way we can track who did what. Most of
>> > us get notified when the page is changed.
>> >
>> > Wiki instructions here: http://esw.w3.org/topic/HelpOnFormatting
>> >
>> > Addison
>> >
>> > Addison P. Phillips
>> > Globalization Architect, Quest Software
>> > Chair, W3C Internationalization Core Working Group
>> >
>> > Internationalization is not a feature.
>> > It is an architecture.
>> >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Ashok Malhotra [mailto:ashok.malhotra@oracle.com]
>> > > Sent: 2005?9?1? 14:43
>> > > To: Addison Phillips; Jim Melton
>> > > Cc: Paul Cotton; w3c-xsl-query@w3.org; public-i18n-core@w3.org
>> > > Subject: RE: ACTION A-Redmond05-01: timezone health warning
>> > >
>> > > I think a W3C note (now called member submission?) is the
>> > right way to
>> > > surface this material.  I will suggest a few changes in wording and
>> > > more specific description of what XML Schema and XML Query
>> > provide.
>> > > Watch your mail!
>> > >
>> > > All the best, Ashok
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: w3c-xsl-query-request@w3.org
>> > > > [mailto:w3c-xsl-query-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of
>> > Addison Phillips
>> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 10:12 AM
>> > > > To: Jim Melton
>> > > > Cc: Paul Cotton; ashok.malhotra@oracle.com; w3c-xsl-query@w3.org;
>> > > > public-i18n-core@w3.org
>> > > > Subject: RE: ACTION A-Redmond05-01: timezone health warning
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks, Jim. If you happen to think of better terms, we would be
>> > > > *very* happy to have suggestions. Note that the document
>> > is in the
>> > > > Wiki and can be modified.
>> > > >
>> > > > I think that Note would be an appropriate format for this
>> > > > information. Perhaps work on time zones would be
>> > appropriate in some
>> > > > other formats (like a REC) in the future, but this isn't it.
>> > > >
>> > > > A non-normative reference to it would be fine. Perhaps,
>> > if I may be
>> > > > so bold:
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Note Well: Users and implementers handling time-related
>> > data should
>> > > > take the considerations in [[href:Note]] into account
>> > even if time
>> > > > zone sensitive data is rarely used. Sooner or later some
>> > data will
>> > > > be affected by the issues described in that document.
>> > > > --
>> > > >
>> > > > The I18N Core WG will work to publish this ASAP, once we
>> > are all in
>> > > > agreement on the course of action.
>> > > >
>> > > > Addison
>> > > >
>> > > > Addison P. Phillips
>> > > > Globalization Architect, Quest Software Chair, W3C
>> > > > Internationalization Core Working Group
>> > > >
>> > > > Internationalization is not a feature.
>> > > > It is an architecture.
>> > > >
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > From: Jim Melton [mailto:jim.melton@acm.org]
>> > > > > Sent: 2005?9?1? 10:03
>> > > > > To: Addison Phillips
>> > > > > Cc: Paul Cotton; ashok.malhotra@oracle.com;
>> > w3c-xsl-query@w3.org;
>> > > > > public- i18n-core@w3.org
>> > > > > Subject: RE: ACTION A-Redmond05-01: timezone health warning
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Addison,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I am very pleased with your draft text.  It is one of the
>> > > > better, more
>> > > > > concise, and clearer discussions of this rather annoying
>> > > > problem that
>> > > > > I've encountered.  I am not particularly delighted with
>> > the three
>> > > > > names you've chosen, but I don't currently have a better
>> > > > alternative to offer.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > You say that you wish to publish the document as a Note
>> > and that
>> > > > > we would then reference it in our document[s].  I
>> > assume that our
>> > > > > reference would be non-normative, because the text of a Note is
>> > > > > not itself normative in any sense.  Right?  If my assumption is
>> > > > correct,
>> > > > > then I would have no objections to following your suggested
>> > > > action.
>> > > > > Among the advantages is the fact that a Note can be
>> > > > published pretty
>> > > > > quickly so that it is available no later than our documents
>> > > > going to
>> > > > > CR status, right?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If I find little quibbles that I'd like changed, what
>> > is the best
>> > > > > process for making that happen?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > >     Jim
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > At 9/1/2005 09:48 AM, Addison Phillips wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >Hi Paul,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >I had an action item to follow up this week with Ashok. I
>> > > > believe we
>> > > > > >are done with our editing homework. The question is
>> > what form the
>> > > > > >health warning should take in your document. Our text is
>> > > > slightly long.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >We want to suggest that we publish our document as a Note and
>> > > > > >that you include a reference to it in your document.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >The document itself is currently located in the Wiki:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >http://esw.w3.org/topic/i18nFAQTimeZone#preview
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >Please let us know if you have particular concerns with
>> > > > the content
>> > > > > >or if you prefer a different course of action for
>> > > > including material
>> > > > > >from it in yours.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >Addison
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >Addison P. Phillips
>> > > > > >Globalization Architect, Quest Software Chair, W3C
>> > > > > >Internationalization Core Working Group
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >Internationalization is not a feature.
>> > > > > >It is an architecture.
>> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > > From: Paul Cotton [mailto:pcotton@microsoft.com]
>> > > > > > > Sent: 2005?8?31? 20:55
>> > > > > > > To: ashok.malhotra@oracle.com; Addison Phillips
>> > > > > > > Cc: w3c-xsl-query@w3.org
>> > > > > > > Subject: ACTION A-Redmond05-01: timezone health warning
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > ACTION A-Redmond05-01 Ashok will work with Addison to
>> > > > > > > > develop text for the timezone health warning.
>> > ETA end of August.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Is the text for the health warning ready?  If it is can
>> > > > one of you
>> > > > > > > please reply to this message with the proposed text or
>> > > > a pointer to it?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > /paulc
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
>> > > > > > > 17 Eleanor Drive, Nepean, Ontario K2E 6A3
>> > > > > > > Tel: (613) 225-5445 Fax: (425) 936-7329
>> > > > > > > mailto:pcotton@microsoft.com
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > ==============================================================
>> > > > ==========
>> > > > > Jim Melton --- Editor of ISO/IEC 9075-* (SQL)     Phone:
>> > > > +1.801.942.0144
>> > > > >    Co-Chair, W3C XML Query WG; F&O (etc.) editor    Fax :
>> > > > +1.801.942.3345
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